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@MajorRage said in Royal drama:
@antipodean said in Royal drama:
One doesn't mean the other. He could genuinely believe that he has a new appreciation from a perspective he'd never considered previously. That's got naught to do with with his apparent hypocrisy in asking for privacy and making enormous sums of money actively staying in the public space.
Correct, it doesn't. However, given the amount of bullshit spoken, I simply don't believe him. I believe he will say whatever it takes to raise the most money. Nothing he's said so far seems that far way from typical family bickering.
Sure, as seen through his perspective.
For what little it's worth I have some sympathy for a guy whose sole raison d'être is "just in case", on top of a rather tragic upbringing in the public eye.
Good on you. So did I. When he wanted to leave the UK / public eye and set out his new life, I thought the way he was treated was harsh & actually supported his decision.
Then he did the Oprah interview. Mine, and most others I know (not all), changed their view then.
It diminished his standing in my eyes given the reported request to seek safe harbour from the toxicity of the British press, but then rather ironically I'm going by what was reported as I wouldn't watch the Oprah Show if you paid me.
I've never heard of this cardinal rule. And it sounds like utter bullshit when you remember people write memoirs.
Good for you. I've never served in the armed forces so have no view. I'm only going on what I've read and what people I know say, all of which were part of the UK Armed Forces.
Well I have served. And I think this is a classic case of group think and tall poppy syndrome. But then I guess people never painted how many kills they'd acquired on their aircraft...
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@antipodean said in Royal drama:
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Well I have served. And I think this is a classic case of group think and tall poppy syndrome. But then I guess people never painted how many kills they'd acquired on their aircraft...
Interesting. Cutting everything else out, as an (ex?) armed forces how do you feel about his comments re kills / Taliban etc?
Appreciate you’ve sort of answered already, but if you took this in isolation.
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@MajorRage said in Royal drama:
@antipodean said in Royal drama:
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Well I have served. And I think this is a classic case of group think and tall poppy syndrome. But then I guess people never painted how many kills they'd acquired on their aircraft...
Interesting. Cutting everything else out, as an (ex?) armed forces how do you feel about his comments re kills / Taliban etc?
Appreciate you’ve sort of answered already, but if you took this in isolation.
In all honesty it seems to me to be a strange thing to have kept count of. But I say that as someone who doesn't and can't know with any certainty. It's very different on the ground when you're in close combat and also responsible for providing fire support. A range that goes from literally beating someone to death with whatever is available to hand, to calling in an air strike with 2000lb bombs or naval gun fire. That's a very different perspective to those in choppers providing close air support who can review footage. As it is with fighter pilots.
I don't know if he's boasting or trying to provide a context to the impact he had, i.e. he had real combat experience. I'm simply going off what's reported, and if it isn't already clear from my posts over the years; I don't have a high opinion of modern journalism.
What I will say is that he served in combat. For all of his personal failings, you can't take that away from him. Not that it absolves him from failings in other aspects of his life, but people who do their job on a two way range get considerable leeway in my eyes. In the paraphrased words of my best friend people who "have never seen an angry man" don't get to comment. And that applies to plenty of people who wear/ wore a uniform regardless of length of service.
edit - And I should admit that my perspective is tinged with contempt of those who claim PTSD with little or no actual combat experience. I often compare the service of the last 20ish years with those of the world wars when looking at deprivation and mental impact. So I may not be representative of modern thinking in this regard.
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@antipodean thanks, appreciate the post.
Adds context to your view(s) and makes a lot of sense.
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It is looking more and more like ole Harry has major problems aptly supported by the scheming Meghan rather than a scheming Meghan controlling a weak and vulnerable Harry.
If it were the middle ages, armies would be forming and preparing behind two different banners. This is a modern-day version. -
@MajorRage said in Royal drama:
@MN5 said in Royal drama:
@MajorRage said in Royal drama:
@MN5 said in Royal drama:
@Bones said in Royal drama:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Royal drama:
@canefan said in Royal drama:
If they really want to make a point, give all the money to charity.
I don't even have a problem with their making money about their experience as Royals. It's the way they're behaving like angry, childish divorcees with no care for the hurt they are causing which gets me.
Or does it.
How come his paedo brother doesn’t get mentioned when it comes to “drama”?
Because that situation has been dealt with, perhaps?
Harry is really coming across like a complete bitch. And yes, clearly royal inbreeding has had a strong part to play on his intelligence.
Fair enough. I don’t follow this stuff as closely as others but I always found it strange that they seemed more villainous than a paedo in the eyes of the British press.
So Harry killed 25 enemies in battle but was “terrified” of a scrap with his bro ? Something doesn’t add up there.
He got slammed in the press. And nothing has been proven about him being a paedo.
Harry’s getting more coverage because he is selling his entire soul to the very thing he hates the most. Andrew did one (train wreck) interview. Harry’s done Oprah, a Netflix series, written a book & 4-5 other interviews with US broadcasters.
Get it yet?
Puts it in perspective in some ways I suppose. We don’t get a lot of the same press here as in the UK ( or I’m oblivious to it ! )
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@MN5 said in Royal drama:
@Bones said in Royal drama:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Royal drama:
@canefan said in Royal drama:
If they really want to make a point, give all the money to charity.
I don't even have a problem with their making money about their experience as Royals. It's the way they're behaving like angry, childish divorcees with no care for the hurt they are causing which gets me.
Or does it.
How come his paedo brother doesn’t get mentioned when it comes to “drama”?
Try the teenage romance section...
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@MN5 said in Royal drama:
@MajorRage said in Royal drama:
@MN5 said in Royal drama:
@Bones said in Royal drama:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Royal drama:
@canefan said in Royal drama:
If they really want to make a point, give all the money to charity.
I don't even have a problem with their making money about their experience as Royals. It's the way they're behaving like angry, childish divorcees with no care for the hurt they are causing which gets me.
Or does it.
How come his paedo brother doesn’t get mentioned when it comes to “drama”?
Because that situation has been dealt with, perhaps?
Harry is really coming across like a complete bitch. And yes, clearly royal inbreeding has had a strong part to play on his intelligence.
Fair enough. I don’t follow this stuff as closely as others but I always found it strange that they seemed more villainous than a paedo in the eyes of the British press.
So Harry killed 25 enemies in battle but was “terrified” of a scrap with his bro ? Something doesn’t add up there.
Less likely to be dropped over a dog bowl in Afghanistan?
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@No-Quarter said in Royal drama:
@MN5 said in Royal drama:
@MajorRage said in Royal drama:
@MN5 said in Royal drama:
@Bones said in Royal drama:
@Victor-Meldrew said in Royal drama:
@canefan said in Royal drama:
If they really want to make a point, give all the money to charity.
I don't even have a problem with their making money about their experience as Royals. It's the way they're behaving like angry, childish divorcees with no care for the hurt they are causing which gets me.
Or does it.
How come his paedo brother doesn’t get mentioned when it comes to “drama”?
Because that situation has been dealt with, perhaps?
Harry is really coming across like a complete bitch. And yes, clearly royal inbreeding has had a strong part to play on his intelligence.
Fair enough. I don’t follow this stuff as closely as others but I always found it strange that they seemed more villainous than a paedo in the eyes of the British press.
So Harry killed 25 enemies in battle but was “terrified” of a scrap with his bro ? Something doesn’t add up there.
I'm also far from convinced the peado situation was "dealt with" to a satisfactory level. Seems odd that a couple of narcissists generate so much more coverage than actual disgusting criminals, but that seems to be the society we live in these days.
A cynical view would be that these couple of narcissists are providing a very convenient distraction from said paedo...
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Harry said he was “hurt” when he joined William’s school and William asked him to pretend not to know each other.
....did he even think this lie through before writing it down? he wants people to believe Will wanted to convince people two of the most famous siblings in the world..."didn;t know each other"
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@Kiwiwomble said in Royal drama:
Harry said he was “hurt” when he joined William’s school and William asked him to pretend not to know each other.
....did he even think this lie through before writing it down? he wants people to believe Will wanted to convince people two of the most famous siblings in the world..."didn;t know each other"
My older boy did that to his brother on his first day of school too.
I told him to pull his head in and stop being a fluffybunny.
I think the Royals need better parental role models.
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@MN5 said in Royal drama:
@Kiwiwomble said in Royal drama:
Harry said he was “hurt” when he joined William’s school and William asked him to pretend not to know each other.
....did he even think this lie through before writing it down? he wants people to believe Will wanted to convince people two of the most famous siblings in the world..."didn;t know each other"
My older boy did that to his brother on his first day of school too.
I told him to pull his head in and stop being a fluffybunny.
I think the Royals need better parental role models.
Doesn't every older sibling do that to their younger sibling...?
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@junior said in Royal drama:
@MN5 said in Royal drama:
@Kiwiwomble said in Royal drama:
Harry said he was “hurt” when he joined William’s school and William asked him to pretend not to know each other.
....did he even think this lie through before writing it down? he wants people to believe Will wanted to convince people two of the most famous siblings in the world..."didn;t know each other"
My older boy did that to his brother on his first day of school too.
I told him to pull his head in and stop being a fluffybunny.
I think the Royals need better parental role models.
Doesn't every older sibling do that to their younger sibling...?
I’m an only child
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@MN5 said in Royal drama:
@junior said in Royal drama:
@MN5 said in Royal drama:
@Kiwiwomble said in Royal drama:
Harry said he was “hurt” when he joined William’s school and William asked him to pretend not to know each other.
....did he even think this lie through before writing it down? he wants people to believe Will wanted to convince people two of the most famous siblings in the world..."didn;t know each other"
My older boy did that to his brother on his first day of school too.
I told him to pull his head in and stop being a fluffybunny.
I think the Royals need better parental role models.
Doesn't every older sibling do that to their younger sibling...?
I’m an only child
Aaah.
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@junior said in Royal drama:
@MN5 said in Royal drama:
@Kiwiwomble said in Royal drama:
Harry said he was “hurt” when he joined William’s school and William asked him to pretend not to know each other.
....did he even think this lie through before writing it down? he wants people to believe Will wanted to convince people two of the most famous siblings in the world..."didn;t know each other"
My older boy did that to his brother on his first day of school too.
I told him to pull his head in and stop being a fluffybunny.
I think the Royals need better parental role models.
Doesn't every older sibling do that to their younger sibling...?
This is it. What he's constantly complaining about goes on in any family, in any country and has done for generations.
He's coming across as a bit sad and pathetic now and you sense he's building up a huge amount of future regret. Tragic really.
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Apparently, the skin colour comments wasn’t about royals being racist …. That was the British media.
Oprah aghast open mouthed totally not related.
Apparently, after a systematic campaign to completely trash the family, the fact the royals didn’t support them when a UK columnist said something mean, proves their point.
This guy is unbelievable.
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He's now coming across as that person that is saying increasingly bizarre things in a desperate attempt to stay relevant. He's really making an excellent job of fucking his life up.
My less than bold longer term prediction: a downward spiral mentally for Harry, less and less media exposure, a breakdown of the relationship with his wife and Harry being accepted back into the Royal fold in a much diminished status. There may well be drink and drugs involved, which will eventually become common knowledge.
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@Catogrande nah, he will never be back.
He’s one trick is done now too.