All Blacks v England
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks Vs England:
@Bones well if we follow the question you pretended I posed
then yes I guess big Leicester is a power winger in a similar mode to Clarke. Not sure if he shores up that wing defensively though.How did Bridge go for the Baabaas?
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@Bones said in All Blacks Vs England:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks Vs England:
@Bones well if we follow the question you pretended I posed
then yes I guess big Leicester is a power winger in a similar mode to Clarke. Not sure if he shores up that wing defensively though.How did Bridge go for the Baabaas?
Nothing flash
That would be a Bridge too far
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You get a pity vote.
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@Bones said in All Blacks Vs England:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks Vs England:
@Bones well if we follow the question you pretended I posed
then yes I guess big Leicester is a power winger in a similar mode to Clarke. Not sure if he shores up that wing defensively though.How did Bridge go for the Baabaas?
Didn't know they had time for cards before the game.
Oh the player not known as DuPont...
From what I saw, safe enough, slow enough. Made one run straight into tacklers.
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@pakman said in All Blacks Vs England:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks Vs England:
@pakman said in All Blacks Vs England:
Ofa/Sami/Lomax/BBBR/Big Sam/Paps/Scooter/RD/Nugget/Richie/Jordie/Ioane (R)/CC/Telea/BB
Bench is where it gets interesting...
Taylor, Bower, Newell, Vaa'i, Frizell, Perenara, DMac, ALB
I'd say Codie/Newell/Vaa'i/TJP/ALB are givens.
If they select S Barrett at 6 there will be two loose forwards on the bench. Likely Ioane and Frizell, but I wonder if Harmon gets a chance.
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@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks Vs England:
That would be a Bridge too far
Can be disruptive when he gets going though, a spanner in the works.
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1.Ethan de Groot; 2.Codie Taylor; 3.Tyrel Lomax; 4.Brodie Retallick; 5.Sam Whitelock; 6.Shannon Frizell; 7.Dalton Papali'i; 8.Ardie Savea; 9.Aaaron Smith; 10.Richie Moúnga, 11.Rieko Ioane; 12.Jordie Barrett; 13.Anton Lienert-Brown; 14.Sevu Reece; 15.Beauden Barrett.
16.Big Sami; 17.Ofa Tu'ungafasi; 18. LFletcher Newell; 19.Scott Barrett; 20.Akira Ioane; 21.TJ Perenara; 22.David Havili; 23.Caleb Clarke.
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With Whitelock and Scooter you basically have 80 minute players. Scooter is a starter. He’s only come off the bench twice in the last two years and they were both last season and one of those was against the Argies when we started Patty T and Vaa’i.
Barrett has been replaced 4 times this year in the 74th, 72nd, 70th and 71st minute. They are not going to use Brodie for those sort of token minutes.
I’d be starting all three of them and that way you have options with two loosies off the bench - Ioane or Frizzel and one of Harmon or Hoskins.
Ardie is an 80 minute player too, but they have selected Hoskins on the bench when Ardie has been in the side. It’s just that he hasn’t replaced Ardie.
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picking the team are we? I am not expecting major changes and some people in positions we have seen before.. I am picking DH to miss out this week though. There is much love for Caleb in the selectors and although we have seen weaknesses they do appear to be persisting through it.
1.Ethan de Groot; 2.Codie Taylor; 3.Tyrel Lomax; 4.Brodie Retallick; 5.Sam Whitelock; 6.Scott Barrett; 7.Dalton Papali'i; 8.Ardie Savea; 9.Aaron Smith; 10.Richie Moúnga, 11.Caleb Clarke; 12.Jordie Barrett; 13.Rieko Ioane; 14.Sevu Reece; 15.Beauden Barrett.
16.Samisoni Taukei'aho; 17.George Bower; 18. Fletcher Newell; 19.Shannon Frizell;20. Hoskins Sotutu 21.TJ Perenara; 22.Anton Lienert-Brown; 23.Stephen Perofeta.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks v England:
1.Ethan de Groot; 2.Codie Taylor; 3.Tyrel Lomax; 4.Brodie Retallick; 5.Sam Whitelock; 6.Shannon Frizell; 7.Dalton Papali'i; 8.Ardie Savea; 9.Aaaron Smith; 10.Richie Moúnga, 11.Rieko Ioane; 12.Jordie Barrett; 13.Anton Lienert-Brown; 14.Sevu Reece; 15.Beauden Barrett.
16.Big Sami; 17.Ofa Tu'ungafasi; 18. LFletcher Newell; 19.Scott Barrett; 20.Akira Ioane; 21.TJ Perenara; 22.David Havili; 23.Caleb Clarke.
Telea not invloved?
Dreamin'
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@MiketheSnow I would like to think he sneaks in, with with a selectors hat on, perhaps not
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@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v England:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks v England:
1.Ethan de Groot; 2.Codie Taylor; 3.Tyrel Lomax; 4.Brodie Retallick; 5.Sam Whitelock; 6.Shannon Frizell; 7.Dalton Papali'i; 8.Ardie Savea; 9.Aaaron Smith; 10.Richie Moúnga, 11.Rieko Ioane; 12.Jordie Barrett; 13.Anton Lienert-Brown; 14.Sevu Reece; 15.Beauden Barrett.
16.Big Sami; 17.Ofa Tu'ungafasi; 18. LFletcher Newell; 19.Scott Barrett; 20.Akira Ioane; 21.TJ Perenara; 22.David Havili; 23.Caleb Clarke.
Telea not invloved?
Dreamin'
We've also got our best centre on the wing, the guy they've played at centre come hell or high water unless he's being rested. And the hookers the wrong way around.
He's almost as good a troll as ACT!
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks v England:
1.Ethan de Groot; 2.Codie Taylor; 3.Tyrel Lomax; 4.Brodie Retallick; 5.Sam Whitelock; 6.Shannon Frizell; 7.Dalton Papali'i; 8.Ardie Savea; 9.Aaaron Smith; 10.Richie Moúnga, 11.Rieko Ioane; 12.Jordie Barrett; 13.Anton Lienert-Brown; 14.Sevu Reece; 15.Beauden Barrett.
16.Big Sami; 17.Ofa Tu'ungafasi; 18. LFletcher Newell; 19.Scott Barrett; 20.Akira Ioane; 21.TJ Perenara; 22.David Havili; 23.Caleb Clarke.
Start with the big bodies, and get the most out of them. Taylor showed he can be the impact sub. That includes starting SB IMO, who is our best lock.
AI, AS and DP is a well balanced trio, and showed signs last week of generating some good turnover ball.
Play the best centre at centre, use Clarke outside RM, on the hit up, ALB covers 12,13 from the bench.
Give Telea another go, showed more than Reece has in recent games.
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@Bones my theory will be rotation of hooker minutes enforced upon them by Coles in Japan will be the logic we hear.. I prefer Sami to start, but I don't think it happens either especially since Codie has found some much needed mojo
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@bayimports said in All Blacks v England:
@Bones my theory will be rotation of hooker minutes enforced upon them by Coles in Japan will be the logic we hear.. I prefer Sami to start, but I don't think it happens either especially since Codie has found some much needed mojo
I makes zero sense, we saw the perfect use of them and what they bring in the weekend. Therefore I fully expect it to be reversed.
And Ennor to start at centre.
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I’d stick with EDG, Sami and Lomax to start and have the Saders trio off the bench.
