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@antipodean said in US Politics:
@Victor-Meldrew said in US Politics:
I genuinely feel sorry for the bloke but you have to ask if he'll make it to full term
Of all the videos, that one I feel is the poorest from the MSM. Who hasn't had their partner help them get an arm into a jacket?
Better?
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@stodders said in US Politics:
@antipodean said in US Politics:
@Victor-Meldrew said in US Politics:
I genuinely feel sorry for the bloke but you have to ask if he'll make it to full term
Of all the videos, that one I feel is the poorest from the MSM. Who hasn't had their partner help them get an arm into a jacket?
Better?
Not really - I've seen that happen to cyclists a third his age. It's not like there isn't plenty of evidence of his cognitive decline, it just seems anything that isn't perfect is now seized upon.
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@antipodean said in US Politics:
@stodders said in US Politics:
@antipodean said in US Politics:
@Victor-Meldrew said in US Politics:
I genuinely feel sorry for the bloke but you have to ask if he'll make it to full term
Of all the videos, that one I feel is the poorest from the MSM. Who hasn't had their partner help them get an arm into a jacket?
Better?
Not really - I've seen that happen to cyclists a third his age. It's not like there isn't plenty of evidence of his cognitive decline, it just seems anything that isn't perfect is now seized upon.
Fair point. He has had a nice break from the limelight recovering from covid. I'm sure he'll come back refreshed and give us some more teleprompter magic moments.
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@antipodean said in US Politics:
Not really - I've seen that happen to cyclists a third his age. It's not like there isn't plenty of evidence of his cognitive decline, it just seems anything that isn't perfect is now seized upon.
Spot on.
It's cheap - like picking on Trump for his physical appearance or inability to walk down a ramp easily. It's bloody annoying, we should be far more concerned about his ability to actually construct a coherent thought rather than a helicopter blowing a jacket arm away.
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@stodders said in US Politics:
He put himself in that position.
To be fair to the bloke, from what I've seen of early stage dementia, the person affected is often (though not always) the person least capable of recognising it...
(I hope my distant armchair diagnosis is entirely wrong, but...)
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2 minutes after catching up on this thread, I went to get changed, tripped over my own trousers, and bent my big toe so far back that I am in absolute agony. I'm 30 years younger than both these duffers, so these things do happen. On the other hand, I wouldn't trust me to run a country.
It's been abundantly clear for many years that both of these guys are mentally completely unequipped for the job. Only the most deluded could argue otherwise - the irony of Trump supporters mocking Biden for being impaired is beyond satire, and vice versa.
The fact that these guys are the best that the Dems & Reps thought they could offer is damning. No decent sized corporation would ever consider appointing a 74 year old CEO. It's a real shame that the US government is a baked-in two-party system, a third party or two could really help right now
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@gibbon-rib said in US Politics:
The fact that these guys are the best that the Dems & Reps thought they could offer is damning. No decent sized corporation would ever consider appointing a 74 year old CEO. It's a real shame that the US government is a baked-in two-party system, a third party or two could really help right now
Wish I could 'like' twice
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@stodders said in US Politics:
@Victor-Meldrew said in US Politics:
I genuinely feel sorry for the bloke but you have to ask if he'll make it to full term
He put himself in that position.
What on earth do you have to do to fail the Presidential fit-for-office test?
It's clear from the last 6 years that if such a test exists, the criteria is pretty much just a pulse
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@antipodean said in US Politics:
@Victor-Meldrew said in US Politics:
I genuinely feel sorry for the bloke but you have to ask if he'll make it to full term
Of all the videos, that one I feel is the poorest from the MSM. Who hasn't had their partner help them get an arm into a jacket?
For me, it was less the jacket and more the way he looked completely lost.
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For Andy McCarthy, the raid is not about National Archive records and more a fishing expedition to try to find evidence on Trump related to the Capital riots.
This is what law enforcement commonly does with known criminals/terrorists, not sure if it is appropriate as a tactic to use against an ex-President. Sets a very dangerous precedent..
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@Frank said in US Politics:
For Andy McCarthy, the raid is not about National Archive records and more a fishing expedition to try to find evidence on Trump related to the Capital riots.
This is what law enforcement commonly does with known criminals/terrorists, not sure if it is appropriate as a tactic to use against an ex-President. Sets a very dangerous precedent..
It's a slippery slope, if the FBI get away with it this time then what's to stop them raiding every former president who gets a mob of halfwits to storm the capitol in a half-armed attempt to steal an election?
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@gibbon-rib said in US Politics:
@Frank said in US Politics:
For Andy McCarthy, the raid is not about National Archive records and more a fishing expedition to try to find evidence on Trump related to the Capital riots.
This is what law enforcement commonly does with known criminals/terrorists, not sure if it is appropriate as a tactic to use against an ex-President. Sets a very dangerous precedent..
It's a slippery slope, if the FBI get away with it this time then what's to stop them raiding every former president who gets a mob of halfwits to storm the capitol in a half-armed attempt to steal an election?
Conspiracy time - the "insurrection" gave the FBI momentum to sate their appetite for more power.
"Critics of the FBI say that the bureau’s desire for more authority and surveillance tools is part of a decades-long expansion of the vast security apparatus inside the federal government."
The insurrectionists were the necessary useful idiots. The FBI just needed greater power to protect everyone
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@gibbon-rib said in US Politics:
@Frank said in US Politics:
For Andy McCarthy, the raid is not about National Archive records and more a fishing expedition to try to find evidence on Trump related to the Capital riots.
This is what law enforcement commonly does with known criminals/terrorists, not sure if it is appropriate as a tactic to use against an ex-President. Sets a very dangerous precedent..
It's a slippery slope, if the FBI get away with it this time then what's to stop them raiding every former president who gets a mob of halfwits to storm the capitol in a half-armed attempt to steal an election?
If the Dems think the state security apparatus is on their side, they are deluded. They only side with those who wield the power. After the mid-terms, this could well mean the Dems are on the receiving end. Careful when playing with fire
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@stodders Actually I believe this is wrong. The bureaucrats are overwhelmingly Democrat. Public servants are on the whole. While a change in Congress to Republican control might see more hearings it won’t amount to anything because you have to have the judicial branch behind you. And this is controlled by the Democrats. Besides if you watch any hearing the witnesses deny everything and stonewall on the production of documents.
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@broughie said in US Politics:
@stodders Actually I believe this is wrong. The bureaucrats are overwhelmingly Democrat. Public servants are on the whole. While a change in Congress to Republican control might see more hearings it won’t amount to anything because you have to have the judicial branch behind you. And this is controlled by the Democrats. Besides if you watch any hearing the witnesses deny everything and stonewall on the production of documents.
I wasn't talking about bureaucrats. I was talking about the security institutions - FBI/CIA/NSA.
Like the civil service in UK, US public servants probably lean towards the Dems, agreed.
Regarding the judiciary, the lower to mid level courts are more Dem leaning, but the conservatives have a 5-4 edge in the Supreme Court, and will do so for a while.
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@stodders said in US Politics:
@broughie said in US Politics:
@stodders Actually I believe this is wrong. The bureaucrats are overwhelmingly Democrat. Public servants are on the whole. While a change in Congress to Republican control might see more hearings it won’t amount to anything because you have to have the judicial branch behind you. And this is controlled by the Democrats. Besides if you watch any hearing the witnesses deny everything and stonewall on the production of documents.
I wasn't talking about bureaucrats. I was talking about the security institutions - FBI/CIA/NSA.
These institutions are run by bureaucrats and you just have to look back to the Russian collusion hoax to see how corrupt they are.
Like the civil service in UK, US public servants probably lean towards the Dems, agreed.
Regarding the judiciary, the lower to mid level courts are more Dem leaning, but the conservatives have a 5-4 edge in the Supreme Court, and will do so for a while.
The problem is that this kind of case is unlikely to get to the Supreme Court. It will be handled in the lower courts if if goes to prosecution. Just need to find a favorable judge and favorable jurisdiction and all credibility goes out the window. Remember the recent acquittal of Sussman in the DC circuit. One of the jurors basically said it really wasn’t a big thing so she had acquitted him. I should try to find the quote. Here is the actual quote: The Sussmann Jury Forewoman June 1, 2022 / Jack Marshall "I don't think it should have been prosecuted. There are bigger things that affect the nation than a possible lie to the FBI."
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@stodders said in US Politics:
@broughie said in US Politics:
@stodders Actually I believe this is wrong. The bureaucrats are overwhelmingly Democrat. Public servants are on the whole. While a change in Congress to Republican control might see more hearings it won’t amount to anything because you have to have the judicial branch behind you. And this is controlled by the Democrats. Besides if you watch any hearing the witnesses deny everything and stonewall on the production of documents.
I wasn't talking about bureaucrats. I was talking about the security institutions - FBI/CIA/NSA.
Like the civil service in UK, US public servants probably lean towards the Dems, agreed.
Regarding the judiciary, the lower to mid level courts are more Dem leaning, but the conservatives have a 5-4 edge in the Supreme Court, and will do so for a while.
6-3 isn't it? Although Gorsuch should never have been there at all, so should have been 5-4.
I thought the lower courts were a complete mixed bag - state and federal level. Rep judges dominate in Red states etc.
Regardless, it's complete lunacy - I suspect that most Americans don't even realise how utterly fucked in the head it is that judges even have declared political affiliations in the first place. This doesn't happen anywhere else in the world. The judiciary is not meant to be an extension of the political branches of government, it's totally shafted.
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@broughie said in US Politics:
@stodders said in US Politics:
@broughie said in US Politics:
@stodders Actually I believe this is wrong. The bureaucrats are overwhelmingly Democrat. Public servants are on the whole. While a change in Congress to Republican control might see more hearings it won’t amount to anything because you have to have the judicial branch behind you. And this is controlled by the Democrats. Besides if you watch any hearing the witnesses deny everything and stonewall on the production of documents.
I wasn't talking about bureaucrats. I was talking about the security institutions - FBI/CIA/NSA.
These institutions are run by bureaucrats and you just have to look back to the Russian collusion hoax to see how corrupt they are.
Like the civil service in UK, US public servants probably lean towards the Dems, agreed.
Regarding the judiciary, the lower to mid level courts are more Dem leaning, but the conservatives have a 5-4 edge in the Supreme Court, and will do so for a while.
The problem is that this kind of case is unlikely to get to the Supreme Court. It will be handled in the lower courts if if goes to prosecution. Just need to find a favorable judge and favorable jurisdiction and all credibility goes out the window.
Because the Supreme Court is objective and apolitical 🙄
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So there is now the possibility of the warrant for the Mar-a-Lago search being unsealed, which could expose the witch hunt or show due process. I'm guessing that it won't matter much, one side will say one thing and one side will say another and good luck in convincing either differently.
For me it will hinge on whether Trump objects or not...
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@Catogrande said in US Politics:
So there is now the possibility of the warrant for the Mar-a-Lago search being unsealed, which could expose the witch hunt or show due process. I'm guessing that it won't matter much, one side will say one thing and one side will say another and good luck in convincing either differently.
For me it will hinge on whether Trump objects or not...
Good. This needs full transparency.
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