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@antipodean said in US Politics:
Tone deaf
And also a shameless race hustler masquerading as Black Jesus.
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@Kid-Chocolate Excellent summary.
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@Victor-Meldrew It won’t take long. Check the paper tomorrow.
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So there’s a list of schools where shootings have occurred. 245 of them:
Thurston High School
Columbine High School
Heritage High School
Deming Middle School
Fort Gibson Middle School
Buell Elementary School
Lake Worth Middle School
University of Arkansas
Junipero Serra High School
Santana High School
Bishop Neumann High School
Pacific Lutheran University
Granite Hills High School
Lew Wallace High School
Martin Luther King, JrHigh School
Appalachian School of Law
Washington High School
Conception Abbey
Benjamin Tasker Middle School
University of Arizona
Lincoln High School
John McDonogh High School
Red Lion Area Junior High School
Case Western Reserve University
Rocori High School
Ballou High School
Randallstown High School
Bowen High School
Red Lake Senior High School
Harlan Community Academy High School
Campbell County High School
Milwee Middle School
Roseburg High School
Pine Middle School
Essex Elementary School
Duquesne University
Platte Canyon High School
Weston High School
West Nickel Mines School
Joplin Memorial Middle School
Henry Foss High School
Compton Centennial High School
Virginia Tech
Success Tech Academy
Miami Carol City Senior High School
Hamilton High School
Louisiana Technical College
Mitchell High School
E.OGreen Junior High School
Northern Illinois University
Lakota Middle School
Knoxville Central High School
Willoughby South High School
Henry Ford High School
University of Central Arkansas
Dillard High School
Dunbar High School
Hampton University
Harvard College
Larose-Cut Off Middle School
International Studies Academy
Skyline College
Discovery Middle School
University of Alabama
DeKalb School
Deer Creek Middle School
Ohio State University
Mumford High School
University of Texas
Kelly Elementary School
Marinette High School
Aurora Central High School
Millard South High School
Martinsville West Middle School
Worthing High School
Millard South High School
Highlands Intermediate School
Cape Fear High School
Chardon High School
Episcopal School of Jacksonville
Oikos University
Hamilton High School
Perry Hall School
Normal Community High School
University of South Alabama
Banner Academy South
University of Southern California
Sandy Hook Elementary School
Apostolic Revival Center Christian School
Taft Union High School
Osborn High School
Stevens Institute of Business and Arts
Hazard Community and Technical College
Chicago State University
Lone Star College-North
Cesar Chavez High School
Price Middle School
University of Central Florida
New River Community College
Grambling State University
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Ossie Ware Mitchell Middle School
Ronald EMcNair Discovery Academy
North Panola High School
Carver High School
Agape Christian Academy
Sparks Middle School
North Carolina A&T State University
Stephenson High School
Brashear High School
West Orange High School
Arapahoe High School
Edison High School
Liberty Technology Magnet High School
Hillhouse High School
Berrendo Middle School
Purdue University
South Carolina State University
Los Angeles Valley College
Charles FBrush High School
University of Southern California
Georgia Regents University
Academy of Knowledge PreSchool
Benjamin Banneker High School
DHConley High School
East English Village Preparatory Academy
Paine College
Georgia Gwinnett College
John FKennedy High School
Seattle Pacific University
Reynolds High School
Indiana State University
Albemarle High School
Fern Creek Traditional High School
Langston Hughes High School
Marysville Pilchuck High School
Florida State University
Miami Carol City High School
Rogers State University
Rosemary Anderson High School
Wisconsin Lutheran High School
Frederick High School
Tenaya Middle School
Bethune-Cookman University
Pershing Elementary School
Wayne Community College
J.B Martin Middle School
Southwestern Classical Academy
Savannah State University
Harrisburg High School
Umpqua Community College
Northern Arizona University
Texas Southern University
Tennessee State University
Winston-Salem State University
Mojave High School
Lawrence Central High School
Franklin High School
Muskegon Heights High School
Independence High School
Madison High School
Antigo High School
University of California-Los Angeles
Jeremiah Burke High School
Alpine High School
Townville Elementary School
Vigor High School
Linden McKinley STEM Academy
June Jordan High School for Equity
Union Middle School
Mueller Park Junior High School
West Liberty-Salem High School
University of Washington
King City High School
North Park Elementary School
North Lake College
Freeman High School
Mattoon High School
Rancho Tehama Elementary School
Aztec High School
Wake Forest University
Italy High School
NET Charter High School
Marshall County High School
Sal Castro Middle School
Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School
Great Mills High School
Central Michigan University
Huffman High School
Frederick Douglass High School
Forest High School
Highland High School
Dixon High School
Santa Fe High School
Noblesville West Middle School
University of North Carolina
Charlotte STEM School
Highlands Ranch Edgewood High School
Palm Beach Central High School
Providence Career & Technical Academy
Fairley High School(School bus)
Canyon Springs High School
Dennis Intermediate School
Florida International University
Central Elementary School
Cascade Middle School
Davidson High School
Prairie View A & M University
Altascocita High School
Central Academy of Excellence
Cleveland High School
Robert ELee High School
Cheyenne South High School
Grambling State University
Blountsville Elementary School
Holmes County, Mississippi (School bus)
Prescott High School
College of the Mainland
Wynbrooke Elementary School
UNC Charlotte
Riverview Florida (School bus)
Second Chance High School
Carman-Ainsworth High School
Williwaw Elementary School
Monroe Clark Middle School
Central Catholic High School
Jeanette High School
Eastern Hills High School
DeAnza High School
Ridgway High School
Reginald FLewis High School
Saugus High School
Pleasantville High School
Waukesha South High School
Oshkosh High School
Catholic Academy of New Haven
Bellaire High School
North Crowley High School
McAuliffe Elementary School
South Oak Cliff High School
Texas A&M University -Commerce
Sonora High School
Western Illinois University
Oxford High School
Robb Elementary School -
Apparently this was the 27th school shooting this year.
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I once went to look up the Cleveland Elementary School shooting on Wikipedia (it was the origin of the song "I don't like Mondays").
Wikipedia has a disambiguation page for "Cleveland Elementary School shooting" because there's been more than one. How fkd is that
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The United States is just a failed fucking state at this point
A ruling elite class that doesn't give a solitary fuck about the people they pretend (loosely) to represent, and that is across party lines.
A populace divided down the middle based on nothing more than what they think their side stands for, not what it actually stands for (ie more money for those in power, fuck you to everyone else).
Blatant, in your face corruption.
Creeping religious extremism
The guns. oh my god the guns.Why in the fuck do people care so much about this fucked up country? It has to just be conditioning at this point. Wall it off. Ban their social media platforms. Go back in 20 years and see what is left.
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Impressive list that signals outrage but tells us SFA.
“The difference is significant. Education Week, which tracks all school shootings, defines them as incidents in which a person other than the suspect suffers a bullet wound on school property. Many of the 26 previous shootings involved disputes between students in parking lots, or after athletic events, and all of them resulted in one or zero deaths. These deaths are still incredibly tragic, of course. But they are fundamentally unlike what happened in Uvalde.”
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@mariner4life said in US Politics:
Why in the fuck do people care so much about this fucked up country?
Supplemental:
Why in the fuck do people who care so little about that fucked up country spend so much of their precious and limited time posting about it on the internet?
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To be fair, I think a lot of your criticisms can be leveled at other countries as well. Perhaps the USA and its problems are just more visible?
E.g. There are c. 1,200 avoidable child deaths in the UK each year due to negligence and poor care by the UK hospitals & Health service - a much higher rate per capita than gun deaths in the US. Been going on for years but, like gun laws in the US, the politicians are too busy shouting insults at each other to sit down, fix it and save lives.
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@Kid-Chocolate said in US Politics:
Impressive list that signals outrage but tells us SFA.
“The difference is significant. Education Week, which tracks all school shootings, defines them as incidents in which a person other than the suspect suffers a bullet wound on school property. Many of the 26 previous shootings involved disputes between students in parking lots, or after athletic events, and all of them resulted in one or zero deaths. These deaths are still incredibly tragic, of course. But they are fundamentally unlike what happened in Uvalde.”
Oh that’s much better /s
Sorry buddy, but if that distinction brings you comfort I fear you may have lost perspective.
Just to be clear, the correct number of shooting deaths on school property is zero.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in US Politics:
To be fair, I think a lot of your criticisms can be leveled at other countries as well. Perhaps the USA and its problems are just more visible?
E.g. There are c. 1,200 avoidable child deaths in the UK each year due to negligence and poor care by the UK hospitals & Health service - a much higher rate per capita than gun deaths in the US. Been going on for years but, like gun laws in the US, the politicians are too busy shouting insults at each other to sit down, fix it and save lives.
To me there is a huge difference. The NHS is trying to save lives, they just aren't always doing that very well. I don't think anyone can easily argue that gun policy in the US is doing anything other than enabling people to take lives. Relating avoidable deaths in the health system and shooting deaths is not comparing apples with apples
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On-going series of videos by Matt (“Orf”) Orfelea are comedic genius. Latest one dropped today.
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Tamping down the hysteria. Required in these times.
Of course the guns are a huge problem But there’s no easy fix. There are 400 million firearms in the States. Their so-called “gun-free cities” have the highest firearm homicides, so eliminating guns is obviously difficult. Short of a civil war and eliminating all guns, which is the same thing, a really good measure for protecting school kids is to take seriously psychopaths on social media who say they’re going to shoot up schools and shopping malls. That’s a good first step. A good second step is to secure those schools. It’s actually doable, but every time it gets raised, politicians shrug and say they don’t have the money. Those same politicians, of course, see nothing wrong and waste no time trafficking mega-billions of dollars of those same assault weapons flooded into a part of Europe that heretofore two years ago the BBC and New York Times were calling white supremacists and neo-nazis, and expecting only good things will happen when they turn up on the streets and nightclubs of Paris and Copenhagen, etc. It’s a crazy world.
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@canefan said in US Politics:
To me there is a huge difference. The NHS is trying to save lives, they just aren't always doing that very well. Relating avoidable deaths in the health system and shooting deaths is not comparing apples with apples
The point I was trying to make is that children are dying unnecessarily, the politicians & authorities know they are dying (or being killed by negligence and/or neglect) and that the current system is dangerous. But they won't do anything meaningful about it as the NHS is a shibboleth like the Second Amendment.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in US Politics:
@canefan said in US Politics:
To me there is a huge difference. The NHS is trying to save lives, they just aren't always doing that very well. Relating avoidable deaths in the health system and shooting deaths is not comparing apples with apples
The point I was trying to make is that children are dying unnecessarily, the politicians & authorities know they are dying (or being killed by negligence and/or neglect) and that the current system is dangerous. But they won't do anything meaningful about it as the NHS is a shibboleth like the Second Amendment.
Same could be said everywhere. We in NZ are not immune to our own issues, who likes to hear of another kid who is beaten to death at home? Our mental health system is failing lots of people, some of whom will take their own lives. Deep down the politicians know there are problems. But to see politicians coming out and making comments in the wake of another shooting, how it isn't the guns that are the problem, that just feels so wrong. Of course, shootings are much more interesting to the media than NHS mortality numbers. That isn't helpful
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@JC said in US Politics:
@Kid-Chocolate said in US Politics:
Impressive list that signals outrage but tells us SFA.
“The difference is significant. Education Week, which tracks all school shootings, defines them as incidents in which a person other than the suspect suffers a bullet wound on school property. Many of the 26 previous shootings involved disputes between students in parking lots, or after athletic events, and all of them resulted in one or zero deaths. These deaths are still incredibly tragic, of course. But they are fundamentally unlike what happened in Uvalde.”
Oh that’s much better /s
Sorry buddy, but if that distinction brings you comfort I fear you may have lost perspective.
Just to be clear, the correct number of shooting deaths on school property is zero.
The page linked to in that article is so 'USA'. There are examples of shootings in parking lots (which is still fucking scary) and I wouldn't go watch a school basketball game! Apart from that it just highlights how common and fucked up guns are there:
A 7-year-old student was grazed by a bullet when a gun in another student's backpack accidentally discharged.
At least four people were wounded, including a 12-year-old student, when a man fired hundreds of rounds of ammunition from a nearby apartment building.
A school bus driver was shot and wounded while three students were on board.
I see Trump (at the NRA conference down the road in Houston) has come out suggesting that NRA heroes with concealed guns are what are needed in schools in the USA.
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@Kid-Chocolate yep. When I saw that list posted about all the shootings I wondered whether I even existed. There’s been one mass shooting this year. Not minimize it but the last one was Parkland from memory but I could be wrong. Is a lot of bullshit circulating because of the agenda on the left and their mouth piece the media. The other ones of note were in San Bernardino, just up the road from where I live, and the Miami night club and they were both Islamic terrorist in nature. Let’s just wait and see what the facts are instead of a knee jerk reaction. It’s a good Democrat strategy of never letting a crisis go to waste.
Just another viewpoint that you won’t see on the front page of Google because you know how it is.
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