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@mariner4life the options are:
- offer nothing and hope people just want a change.
- offer something and havr it shot to shit by the guys offering nothing.
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@NTA said in Aussie Politics:
@mariner4life the options are:
- offer nothing and hope people just want a change.
- offer something and havr it shot to shit by the guys offering nothing.
And it well make a measurable difference for the next 3 years, so they won't last.
The longevity of Australian PMs hasn’t been too flash of late, so even if Albanese does get in on the back of a unlikeable ScoMo who knows if he will see out his full term
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A list of random predictions for tomorrow.
Albanese wins between 75-77 seats and forms Government... just
No speeches are made before 10pm as both parties sweat on results in WA
The 'teal wave' sees a win in Goldstein but Sharma, Frydenberg and Zimmerman all hold.
United Australia wins at least one seat in the Senate.
The ALP only just cling onto Hunter, prompting more thinkpieces about how Labor are losing blue collar voters.
Kristina Kenneally, sadly, wins Fowler -
@Nevorian said in Aussie Politics:
The longevity of Australian PMs hasn’t been too flash of late, so even if Albanese does get in on the back of a unlikeable ScoMo who knows if he will see out his full term
Yep. Especially as the Libs will thoroughly enjoy opposition I think. Basically doing what they do now - fuck all - but they get to criticise the ALP louder.
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@barbarian said in Aussie Politics:
The 'teal wave' sees a win in Goldstein but Sharma, Frydenberg and Zimmerman all hold.
I struggle to believe the sanity of people who say Frydenberg is under threat.
Primary vote: 49% last time out. Next best was Burnside on the Greens ticket with 21% (56/44 after preferences).
Sure, he said some pretty shit stuff about Victoria, but you're not going to turn that many conservative voters with climate change and "hey this guy is shit".
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@NTA said in Aussie Politics:
@barbarian my gag reflex is triggered by the implication that polls mean anything...
Well they don't mean anything, except as a broad indicator of where things are sitting. If you have polled Kooyong and your bloke is polling a primary vote in the 30s, it MAY be bullshit but either way you should think about getting him on a prepoll booth...
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If a candidate like Josh loses his seat, the LNP are forever toast.
I like how John Carroll described the Climate 200 "Independents"; an orgy of virtue signalling. Diverse lot too
I expect an ALP win, especially given the large amount of pre-polling before ScoMo could claw back the gap, and fervently hope Kenneally loses.
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@NTA said in Aussie Politics:
Did prepoll last night. Some fucking whack jobs running in my electorate
Got my democracy sausage around lunch time. Bit of a queue, but moved quickly enough and nice weather so in no rush.
Looked at who I would preference from least irritated by to eventual preferred winner, ensuring Greens go last. There are some genuine weirdos running. Not least of which are the Informed Medical Options Party, named as accurately as the Democratic People's Republic of Congo.
Click the link and check out the dumb shit they advocate for.
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@antipodean said in Aussie Politics:
@NTA said in Aussie Politics:
Did prepoll last night. Some fucking whack jobs running in my electorate
Got my democracy sausage around lunch time. Bit of a queue, but moved quickly enough and nice weather so in no rush.
Looked at who I would preference from least irritated by to eventual preferred winner, ensuring Greens go last. There are some genuine weirdos running. Not least of which are the Informed Medical Options Party, named as accurately as the Democratic People's Republic of Congo.
Click the link and check out the dumb shit they advocate for.
What was the vibe for Pocock when you went out?
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@antipodean said in Aussie Politics:
Click the link and check out the dumb shit they advocate for.
Ah yes. I had some antivax clown called "Bosi" who might as well be them.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Aussie Politics:
@antipodean said in Aussie Politics:
@NTA said in Aussie Politics:
Did prepoll last night. Some fucking whack jobs running in my electorate
Got my democracy sausage around lunch time. Bit of a queue, but moved quickly enough and nice weather so in no rush.
Looked at who I would preference from least irritated by to eventual preferred winner, ensuring Greens go last. There are some genuine weirdos running. Not least of which are the Informed Medical Options Party, named as accurately as the Democratic People's Republic of Congo.
Click the link and check out the dumb shit they advocate for.
What was the vibe for Pocock when you went out?
He's got a lot of supporters on the ground. Whether that translates is something else, but this feels like the best possible chance for a high profile independent.
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Well that was pretty emphatic. But thoroughly deserved, given the wretched performance over the last few years from this gurning coalfelcher and his rancid brew of corruption, incompetence and cruelty. Bit sad that most of us are happier about who's lost than who's won, but I'll take it.
Frydenburg losing, which looks likely, is a disaster for the Libs. Their immediate future looks bleak. If they pick Dutton as leader then the old broad church Liberal party is surely dead and buried. He might pull back some votes from UAP / ON, but can't see them winning back any of those blue ribbon seats.
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@gibbon-rib this sort of loss the best thing for the liberal party. If they're smart, they might use the next 3 years to start getting further away from Barnaby Joyce, and find other allies on the crossbench.
Not with the spud in charge tho.
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I'm in Goldstein, where Tim Wilson lost to a "teal" independent. Wilson spent the whole campaign whining that it was a campaign funded and run by outsiders, coming into sensible conservative bayside and imposing their Brunswick values. Absolute horseshit (which to be fair is very much on brand for Wilson), you just had to walk around the area and count the corflutes and tshirts to know it was a big community campaign.
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@NTA said in Aussie Politics:
@gibbon-rib this sort of loss the best thing for the liberal party. If they're smart, they might use the next 3 years to start getting further away from Barnaby Joyce, and find other allies on the crossbench.
Not with the spud in charge tho.
I hope they do. But they might go the other way, move further right and more trumpy (which would move them away from their traditional small-l-liberal and less small-c-conservative origins).
They've got a similar dilemma to the one Labor's faced for a while, trying to keep the different parts of their base happy. But they've only got themselves to blame for the climate change component of that, they happily doubled down on the science denial for years and they're paying the price now.
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