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@NTA said in Aussie Politics:
Might be time to start building out rural centres with more services and internet so that the WFH can really take effect, reinvigorating those towns and satellites, and taking pressure off metropolitan centres.
I might add that the impact of NBN and covid saw a greater percentage increase in house price in rural areas over their city counterparts. And this exacerbates a real issue of supply in those areas. A genuine nation building plan aligning Federal funding, State and councils would be needed. The evidence so far suggests such a plan is beyond our politicians.
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@antipodean said in Aussie Politics:
NIMBYISM is definitely an issue. Hopefully with the influx of Asians they'll be more appreciative of the benefits of middle and high density living in cities. Almost no reason to own a car, infrastructure and services within walking distance or a competent public transport system.
Castle Hill here in Sydney is a perfect example.
Semi-rural living up until about 20 years ago. Since then, the shopping centre has undergone a couple of expansions, tripling in size. Apartments of 20+ storeys are shooting up all around it. The big blocks and older houses are getting bought up - some neighbourhoods had multiple owners get together to create a force multiplier effect with the developer. The Metro train service has made it leap again, and why wouldn't it? I could live in an apartment for < $1M out at Castle Hill, and be 30 minutes from a CBD workplace by train with one stop - walking a few metres across the platform at Chatswood.
Asian population of Castle Hill has increased significantly, in a similar way to places like Chatswood and Eastwood, which is about to explode as TG Milner Oval gets sold off and vacated. Hurstville another prime example.
Against that you've got a lot of south asian immigration into the suburbs where they want the house and land, and have the money to live 2 families to a block until they can buy the next one.
Over all this are the older multi-generation Aussies and post-war migrants who have almost a stranglehold over rentals and bigger property which gives developers wet dreams at night.
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@antipodean said in Aussie Politics:
@NTA said in Aussie Politics:
Might be time to start building out rural centres with more services and internet so that the WFH can really take effect, reinvigorating those towns and satellites, and taking pressure off metropolitan centres.
I might add that the impact of NBN and covid saw a greater percentage increase in house price in rural areas over their city counterparts.
Lower base, but yes. It has put a lot of pressure on those prices, and you won't hear real estate agents complaining, particularly when student rent comes back into the market in a serious way for the Bathursts, Armidales, and Waggas.
If they could get rural housing plans going, as well as transport hubs and internet* then all they need to do is lift housing construction standards and they could significantly reduce energy infrastructure needs as well.
*Was in Pokolbin recently and while some areas were fine, a lot were utter shit. Fixed wireless is rubbish.
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I'm in rural Victoria and the house prices and rents have gone stupid crazy last few years. Demand is just outpacing supply by a long way. Melbourne people have been buying lots of property which means the young locals are pushed out. Real estate agents must be rolling in the cash at the moment.
I am just very lucky that we beat the boom and have 130+ acres of bush up on a hill without a neighbour in sight. I'm fucked if a bush fire comes but I'll take the serenity any day.
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@chimoaus said in Aussie Politics:
am just very lucky that we beat the boom and have 130+ acres of bush up on a hill without a neighbour in sight. I'm fucked if a bush fire comes but I'll take the serenity any day.
A good chainsaw and some water tanks can go a long way.
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Politics:
@NTA said in Aussie Politics:
Also think we need a rethink of what "housing" looks like.
Suburban sprawl is pretty inefficient compared to high density housing. A lot of apartments are going up in nearby suburbs and people shake their heads about it, but really the options in Sydney are starting to come down to hi-rise or flood zone. We creep ever closer to the borders of the floodplain that represents much of western Sydney.
Might be time to start building out rural centres with more services and internet so that the WFH can really take effect, reinvigorating those towns and satellites, and taking pressure off metropolitan centres.
that, my Australian friend, would take a vision. And a complex set of policies to not only allow, but encourage it. And it isn't going to make pretty soundbites, nor is it a short term bribe to get votes in marginal seats.
It's far far easier to say "we have a plan to make houses cheaper" (you do not you lying fluffybunnies, and even if you did, why do you think that's a good thing for most people?) or to just keep turning the current wheel so you can point to the "economic gains".
I fucking can't wait for Sunday. I am so sick of all this bullshit.
Agree, make houses cheaper by making houses smaller, it is not rocket surgery. Yes our parents and grandparents did have the quarter acre block but generally with a modest sized house, not the mammoth monoliths first home buyers seem to have to have now
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@voodoo said in Aussie Politics:
Coalition in from$4.50 a few days ago to $2.65...still a chance???
Aussies love a bloke will to smash kids to win footy
Wish i had got on $4.20, those odds were ridiculous
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@mariner4life That kid was running his mouth and Scomo stepped up. Talk shit get hit.
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IMO, it'll be closer than many think because
for as bad as the LNP has been over the past 18 months, what have Labor offered as an alternative? Albo seems a bit dim. They aren't offering anything as a party except a few well placed bribes, and not being the LNP.
Now, it might just work, the LNP have been in for a while, and ScMo is one of the faces of Covid, and people desperately want to bury that.
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@mariner4life the options are:
- offer nothing and hope people just want a change.
- offer something and havr it shot to shit by the guys offering nothing.
And it EDIT:
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@NTA said in Aussie Politics:
@mariner4life the options are:
- offer nothing and hope people just want a change.
- offer something and havr it shot to shit by the guys offering nothing.
And it well make a measurable difference for the next 3 years, so they won't last.
The longevity of Australian PMs hasn’t been too flash of late, so even if Albanese does get in on the back of a unlikeable ScoMo who knows if he will see out his full term
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A list of random predictions for tomorrow.
Albanese wins between 75-77 seats and forms Government... just
No speeches are made before 10pm as both parties sweat on results in WA
The 'teal wave' sees a win in Goldstein but Sharma, Frydenberg and Zimmerman all hold.
United Australia wins at least one seat in the Senate.
The ALP only just cling onto Hunter, prompting more thinkpieces about how Labor are losing blue collar voters.
Kristina Kenneally, sadly, wins Fowler -
@Nevorian said in Aussie Politics:
The longevity of Australian PMs hasn’t been too flash of late, so even if Albanese does get in on the back of a unlikeable ScoMo who knows if he will see out his full term
Yep. Especially as the Libs will thoroughly enjoy opposition I think. Basically doing what they do now - fuck all - but they get to criticise the ALP louder.
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@barbarian said in Aussie Politics:
The 'teal wave' sees a win in Goldstein but Sharma, Frydenberg and Zimmerman all hold.
I struggle to believe the sanity of people who say Frydenberg is under threat.
Primary vote: 49% last time out. Next best was Burnside on the Greens ticket with 21% (56/44 after preferences).
Sure, he said some pretty shit stuff about Victoria, but you're not going to turn that many conservative voters with climate change and "hey this guy is shit".
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