IT/PC issue
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Baron Silas Greenback" data-cid="584717" data-time="1464835101">
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<p>I dont think Apple is more stable (less prone to issues) than Windows, and all the evidence bears that out as well as real life instances where stability really matters. But stability is a relative thing, the reality is that shit can happen to Windows or Apple, and wether it does or not is usually down to bad luck, human error, or user ignorance. My wifes iPad was a prime example. It was a piece of shit, but that does not extrapolate out to mean I think they are shit for everyone. Just a personal experience with a particular device in a particular environment.</p>
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<p>Getting back to Apple Corp and its decline. Sorry I should have been clearer. Apple are not in a decline to inferior technology, or profits.</p>
<p>But they have just hit a new phase of bloated corporate BS. They are not on the bleeding edge of anything, their tech is hitting a life cycle stage that is entirely expected. It is really hard to be the front runner. They are just not innovating as much as others any more. They are living off rehashed versions of the same old products, add a certain level of saturation.... and sales get affected. They desperately need something new, maybe they have it coming up. But I doubt it.</p>
<p>Microsoft is absolutely kicking their ass on the innovation front at the moment. But that will take awhile to hit mainstream, and in the meanwhile Apple will carry on being.. huge. But huge tech firms always go through cycles and associated declines that seem impossible before they happen.</p>
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<p>Interestingly, if .. another firm comes out with a 'wow' product like Hololens.. then Apple might lose its hold on education sectors.. and that would be the beginning of the end of their time at the top... for now..</p>
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<p>All I know is that I am yet to have a problem in 5 years with any apple product but constantly had issues with others Windows etc.</p>
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<p>That makes it a good marketing point of difference to me and others that are similar in not having issue with Apple products but have had with microsoft.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Baron Silas Greenback" data-cid="584717" data-time="1464835101">
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<p>I dont think Apple is more stable (less prone to issues) than Windows, and all the evidence bears that out as well as real life instances where stability really matters. But stability is a relative thing, the reality is that shit can happen to Windows or Apple, and wether it does or not is usually down to bad luck, human error, or user ignorance. My wifes iPad was a prime example. It was a piece of shit, but that does not extrapolate out to mean I think they are shit for everyone. Just a personal experience with a particular device in a particular environment.</p>
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<p>Getting back to Apple Corp and its decline. Sorry I should have been clearer. Apple are not in a decline to inferior technology, or profits.</p>
<p>But they have just hit a new phase of bloated corporate BS. They are not on the bleeding edge of anything, their tech is hitting a life cycle stage that is entirely expected. It is really hard to be the front runner. They are just not innovating as much as others any more. They are living off rehashed versions of the same old products, add a certain level of saturation.... and sales get affected. They desperately need something new, maybe they have it coming up. But I doubt it.</p>
<p>Microsoft is absolutely kicking their ass on the innovation front at the moment. But that will take awhile to hit mainstream, and in the meanwhile Apple will carry on being.. huge. But huge tech firms always go through cycles and associated declines that seem impossible before they happen.</p>
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<p>Interestingly, if .. another firm comes out with a 'wow' product like Hololens.. then Apple might lose its hold on education sectors.. and that would be the beginning of the end of their time at the top... for now..</p>
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<p>Fair and accurate points. Microsoft's biggest problem is me.</p>
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<p>I've started to wane a bit after a few issues with our imac. Now, I know it's now 5 years old, and most computers are past their shelf life by then, but I've had to replace the hard drive, but it still seems to have some issues. Given the extra cost, I am thinking of going back to a PC. </p>
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<p>But I'm not convinced that I can be bothered trying to setup a PC to be the central part of an entire household of apple products - an ipad, 2 iphone's, a macbook, apple tv and a 2TB routers/backup thing. Not to mention an icloud account which has everything I'll ever need.</p>
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<p>Can I trust everybody who says it will be simple? No matter what you say, I'm sure I'll just be buying a new apple.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="584723" data-time="1464835927">
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<p>Oh when you restart your router give it a good couple of minutes before repowering. Some will do a hot restart if you don't and it won't clear any possible problem.</p>
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<p>def done that, on Saturday night was off for about 10 mins, and I knew it was an unusual problem when the iPads connected but the laptop couldn't see the connection at all.</p> -
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<p>I'm on Win10 and have been pretty much since the update was available...as I said, I can see networks, just not my one (unfortunately they are secure ones )</p>
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<p>I do know I did some updates around the time of the issue first appearing, and then after restoring it back a couple of days, more updates again maybe on Tuesday?</p>
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<p>I expect that is likely the issue.</p>
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<p>But will have a play when I get home tonight.</p>
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<p>Have you tried reverting to a restore point created prior to the upgrades?</p>
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<p>I had this exact issue prior to upgrading to Windows10. The upgrade fixed it</p>
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<p>I reckon there should be a new version of Godwins law measuring how long it takes for an IT topic to denigrate into name calling Apple v non-Apple</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MajorRage" data-cid="584729" data-time="1464836598">
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<p>Fair and accurate points. Microsoft's biggest problem is me.</p>
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<p>I've started to wane a bit after a few issues with our imac. Now, I know it's now 5 years old, and most computers are past their shelf life by then, but I've had to replace the hard drive, but it still seems to have some issues. Given the extra cost, I am thinking of going back to a PC. </p>
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<p>But I'm not convinced that I can be bothered trying to setup a PC to be the central part of an entire household of apple products - an ipad, 2 iphone's, a macbook, apple tv and a 2TB routers/backup thing. Not to mention an icloud account which has everything I'll ever need.</p>
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<p>Can I trust everybody who says it will be simple? No matter what you say, I'm sure I'll just be buying a new apple.</p>
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<p>Quite correct. Apple have done a very good job of locking people in. But that is also a challenge for them in securing more market share,because those that are willing to (or dont care) be locked into one corporations products.. have been mined.. and sold to.</p>
<p>It is going be a very interesting few years, and like I said, it will take a 'wow' product to make people be willing to sacrifice their Apple eco-system. Just a new PC is not usually enough.</p>
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<p>And you didnt even need to mention iTunes!</p> -
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<p>Quite correct. Apple have done a very good job of locking people in. But that is also a challenge for them in securing more market share,because those that are willing to (or dont care) be locked into one corporations products.. have been mined.. and sold to.</p>
<p>It is going be a very interesting few years, and like I said, it will take a 'wow' product to make people be willing to sacrifice their Apple eco-system. Just a new PC is not usually enough.</p>
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<p>And you didnt even need to mention iTunes!</p>
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<p>I barely get time to watch movies these days, so for me it's about music - and spotify has me completely sorted there. I've not even looked at Apple Music, purely because I know I've got too much vested there already. And now that AC/DC is on spotify, I can't think of a single band thats missing on there.</p>
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<p>Although I do keep getting receipts for shit like Planes, Volt!, Penguins, Frozen continuously coming through my mail ...</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="584734" data-time="1464838955">
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<p>At work you can keep your own phone or have an iPhone6 (or 6s I think) or Samsung equiv of 6s (or 6). Stuff all keep their own phone or go for the Samsung.</p>
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<p><strong>I think the iPhone just suits those that aren't tech twats.</strong></p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Hooroo" data-cid="584734" data-time="1464838955">
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<p>I think the iPhone just suits those that aren't tech twats.</p>
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<p>On the other hand, the touch screen device revolution has convinced managers with fuck-all idea about IT that its easy, cheap, and quick.</p>
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<p>Don't get me wrong: you can have easy, cheap, and quick. Just don't expect it to do what you expect. Two of those attributes are generally achievable, in opposition to the third.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="584611" data-time="1464817712">
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<p>had a friend e-mail me this, so will give it a crack, although I can still see other connections, just not my one!</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.redmondpie.com/fix-no-wi-fi-available-after-windows-10-upgrade-issue-heres-how/'>http://www.redmondpie.com/fix-no-wi-fi-available-after-windows-10-upgrade-issue-heres-how/</a></p>
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<p>this has rectified the issue...although like onje of the comments, who said the command prompts it suggested to follow were not existant, but restarting has resolved it, as it did for me</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="584744" data-time="1464847452"><p>this has rectified the issue...although like onje of the comments, who said the command prompts it suggested to follow were not existant, but restarting has resolved it, as it did for me</p></blockquote>
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<p>Getting back to Apple Corp and its decline. Sorry I should have been clearer. Apple are not in a decline to inferior technology, or profits.</p>
<p>But they have just hit a new phase of bloated corporate BS. They are not on the bleeding edge of anything, their tech is hitting a life cycle stage that is entirely expected. It is really hard to be the front runner. They are just not innovating as much as others any more. They are living off rehashed versions of the same old products, add a certain level of saturation.... and sales get affected. They desperately need something new, maybe they have it coming up. But I doubt it.</p>
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<p>I hope you're wrong, cause I've just recently taken a fairly sizeable (for me!) position in their stock.</p> -
I have a Windows phone. I think it's great and better than the iphone and Samsung I've previously used. But I also don't use that many apps or other fancy shit. But it still astounds me that MS inflicted Windows 8 on PCs. Wtf were they thinking. Phones and tablets, awesome, but PCs. Retarded.<br><br>
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I hope you're wrong, cause I've just recently taken a fairly sizeable (for me!) position in their stock.</p></blockquote>
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I don't think you have anything to worry about. Apple could launch the iPoo and people would still buy millions of them. <br><br>
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<p>I've owned their stock several times before, Rancid, and made a bit. But funnily enough it's not their iAnythings that motivated me this time.</p>
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<p>Their last results call failed to make any mention of the line item that showed they spent $9.7bn on R&D in the year to April. I'm betting that the research wasn't simply on developing the new Apple Pencil, or any computer product for that matter. They also spent $11.2bn on tooling and equipment in the same period, again not to produce the pencil. What is it for? People can guess but nobody knows for sure.</p>
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<p>It looks to me that they may be on the way towards an iPod type pivot into a different tech path, and if that's the case they are well underpriced.</p> -
<p>Wife's laptop updated to Windows 10 the other night, lost detection of HMDI out for audio - no end of faffing about sorted it (drivers, restarted, etc, etc,). Rolled back to Windows 8.1 and hey presto it's all working fine again.</p>
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<p>I hope you're wrong, cause I've just recently taken a fairly sizeable (for me!) position in their stock.</p>
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<p>I have gone the other way, so hope I am correct. I abandoned my Apple stock and have bought Microsoft.</p>
<p>Hololens and associated patents are going to kick ass</p>
<p>I am betting (along with many others) that Apple are developing a vehicle. If that is the case, it will be a huge risk and a long term proposition.</p>
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<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/10/28/apple-rd-spending-hit-81b-in-2015-suggests-continued-work-on-massive-project'>http://appleinsider.com/articles/15/10/28/apple-rd-spending-hit-81b-in-2015-suggests-continued-work-on-massive-project</a></p> -
<p>this is the first and only issue after the upgrade, I was so glad to be rid of the abomination that is Win8/8.1...</p>
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<p>8.1 was fine imo - didn't like native 8 with the tablet/pc interface mash up. But we've got 8.1 at work so that helped with getting familiar with it.</p>