Coronavirus - Overall
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@anonymous said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
The common cold and influenza are coronaviruses.
I think you've got that a bit mixed up. Some common colds (and i guess what some people would wrongly refer to as "the flu") are caused by coronaviruses but not all. Influenza isn't caused by a coronavirus, it's caused by an influenza virus.
And that's about the limit of my knowledge on virology.
https://www.healthnavigator.org.nz/health-a-z/c/coronavirus/
The common cold is a set of symptoms, not the name of a specific coronavirus. You are correct about the flu Point I was trying to make was that in 1918 the flu killed a shit load of people. Over time immune systems in the survivors learned to combat it reasonably well to the point where today many people don't bother with an annual vaccine
No idea how accurate this graph is but it's a break down of the types of viruses that cause the "common cold". The point I was trying to make is that only a portion of the time those symptoms are caused by a coronavirus.
I agree with the rest of what you said though.
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I think it has seemed pretty clear for some time this aint going away, at least not anytime soon!
For me, if the vaccine assists in slowing the spread and if I happen to pick it up and slightly lessens the chance of me transmitting it to anyone I may come into contact with (my parents, my aunts, uncles etc) so that if they get hospitalised the system isnt smashed, and if a mask helps reduce transmission, even by only 5%, then I'm ok with that.
For me, is a small price to pay for my life to get back to some kind of normal.
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@taniwharugby you sum up my thoughts pretty accurately
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@kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@kirwan think that must be a bit out of date, aus is over 90% first dose
NZ is counting 12+ whereas Oz is 16+
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@antipodean good point, always forget that, just see the headlines
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Interesting article from a normally crap newspaper. They've analysed Google mobility data and theorised that the huge rise in Europe is down to people thinking the pandemic was over as vaccinations had killed it off, resultant high levels of social interaction poss. made worse by not relaxing restrictions early enough in the summer months. Other factors are vaccine scepticism and slow booster programme roll-outs.
Key takeaway is keeping people cautious by not thinking a high level of vaccination is a cure-all. And start planning your booster roll-out early enough.
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@taniwharugby Interesting stuff. I have wondered generally that if a country has a high vaccination rate done recently, does Delta spread so fast that it might actually burn itself out of unvaccinated people in a location and not be able to spread further. Mutations that wipe it out didn't seem so likely, but handy if it does happen elsewhere.
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@kiwiwomble People are infectious earlier on average which makes contact tracing even harder.
The time from exposure to the virus until the first positive test is shorter for the Delta variant. On average, a person may be infectious for 1–2 days before they develop symptoms and some people who are infected never develop symptoms (asymptomatic). Asymptomatic people may still be infectious, early on in their infection.
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Vitamin d vs covid
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@muddyriver Not exactly new though. Explains the seasonal drops in Covid but countries with high natural exposure to D3 still get Covid.
Some 'experts' think 50 ng/mL D3 is too much but they are a minority
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@muddyriver I guess the issue is D3 has been touted as the answer to everything from Cancer to MS to Gout.
Sit in the sun eating salmon with mushrooms and you'll be fine. Beer is optional. Doesn't help raise your D3 but ... beer.
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Covid-19: Should we be worried about reports of myocarditis and pericarditis after mRNA vaccines?
BMJ 2021; 373 doi: https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.n1635 (Published 24 June 2021)
An attentive reader has kindly pointed out to me through a personal communication that in my previous rapid response [1] my computation of the number needed to treat for an additional beneficial outcome (NNTB) for preventing hospitalisation after a covid-19 infection in a healthy white male aged 25 years, i.e., ( 1 / 0.000089 ) x 3, is not 3,371, but 33,708 (due to me having likely missed a leading zero on my calculator). Therefore, the actual estimate of NNTB/NNTH (number needed to treat for an additional harmful outcome) is 223, and not 22.3. Hence, according to Pfizer’s own data [2] and the QCovid risk calculator [3], 223 young people would experience at least one serious adverse event for every prevented hospitalisation. For the best case scenario, using again the upper limit of the NNTH confidence interval, 43 individuals aged 12-25 years will experience at least one serious adverse event for each prevented hospital admission. The chance of benefits from vaccinating younger people are so vanishingly small and the risk of harms so large that the one-size-fits-all covid-19 vaccination campaign might need revision.
If you dont want to read the key take from this. assuming 100% efficacy of the vaccine 43, 12-25 year olds will experience an adverse reaction for every positve outcome gained from the pfizer/moderna vaccine.
This is within mandated age ranges. it gets worse the younger it goes. and better the older it goes.