Coronavirus - New Zealand
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The only reason any of us really give a fuck if others get jabbed or not, if we're honest, is because the government has said they will not give us our lives back if we don't.
This isn't polio or even measles, it's the flue jab. No one gave a fuck about the flu jab.
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@mariner4life yep, exactly.
And not one person on here got the vaccine primarily for health benefits.
What a situation: take a widely distributed experimental vaccine because it saves you more from the government, than the actual pathogenic virus.
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@siam not quite right for me.
It was a few months back when a few people in thier early 40s, fit and healthy died of Covid and made headlines that prompted me to go for it, despite having the annual flu vaccine only once in over 20 years.
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@taniwharugby for sure, if I had 2 or more comorbidities, I'd be definitely getting it primarily for health reasons.👍
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@siam said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@mariner4life yep, exactly.
And not one person on here got the vaccine primarily for health benefits.
What a situation: take a widely distributed experimental vaccine because it saves you more from the government, than the actual pathogenic virus.
😄
Wrong, I did. I have health issues so me getting COVID would be a huge problem. Also where my wife works puts her in contact with people that potentially have it.
And fuck off with that experimental conspiracy bullshit. Literally billions of people have had it now, and it was created off the back of decades of scientific effort.
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@donsteppa said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@siam said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
And not one person on here got the vaccine primarily for health benefits.
Speak for yourself on that one...
I reckon. What a load of shit. My entire family got it for health reasons.
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@siam I don't have health issues (well I found out a few weeks back my cholesterol is slightly over, but I'd had jab 1 5 weeks prior) neither did those people of similar age to me that died, which was the reason I had a change of mind.
I see myself as very low risk of getting seriously ill from covid, but hey, this reduces that further
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Many apologies for my apparently incorrect inference about emergency use authorised vaccine motivations.
I was referencing a discussion when brit ferners got jabbed a few months ago. The common and primary reason then was for travel.
I was wrong. Apologies to those who view the virus as more dangerous than I. It's obvious I can't relate to the NZ situation. Good luck over there. I sincerely hope you make it through the next 6-12 months withoutdying of covid.
Be safe, kia kaha -
@siam for me, I expect to get covid at some point.
The vaccine reduces my chance of serious effects from slim to exceptionally remote. Coupled with the protection herd immunity offers to the rest of the community- but I see it as very much in my self interest to do it.
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@tim said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@siam you have absolutely no ability to make such an “inference”, so don’t post your dumb bullshit.
Ability? I can type can't I? 😉
Tim, I was honestly of the belief, from the brit ferners discussion, that the civil harms are more of a vaccine motivator than the death and ICU harms. Truly.
I put my hand up, spouted a thought and was efficiently and properly corrected by the people I spouted to- about their lives. I was wrong. Totally on me. My bad. And the boys politely told me. I learned that things in nz are different to things in south Australia. That's all.
And, so I conclude ( might be wrong, it's only a thought) that if unvaccinated people had no restrictions on travel, gatherings, work, etc. If the vaccine was purely optional with no repercussions for opting out whatsoever, then the folks above would still opt to get the jab because of health reasons.
That's great mate! That's the evidence of an effective vaccine at work. That's ideal.
And something I learned on the fern.
It's all good mate, sheath your exclamation marks😁
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@siam said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Good luck over there. I sincerely hope you make it through the next 6-12 months withoutdying of covid.
Be safe, kia kahaWell that is a pretty fucking condescending thing to say.
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@taniwharugby i see that mate, didn't mean it to be as dodgy as it came out.
With so many vaccinated people surviving covid so effectively I think the only danger is death or ICU. I mean with no long term data the outcomes are pretty much just recover, hospitalised and death aren't they?
Aghh, I still sound condescending. Look, please, sincerely good luck over there, it's obviously a hell of a challenge and I wish you well in NZ. I am worried about the situation in nz, a lot of the world is, but you guys will sort it. -
@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@siam not quite right for me.
It was a few months back when a few people in thier early 40s, fit and healthy died of Covid and made headlines that prompted me to go for it, despite having the annual flu vaccine only once in over 20 years.
The counterargument is that the numbers of seriously ill fit people in that age bracket are low. But like you I don't want to take the risk I end up in that minority who get really sick
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Regardless of your viewpoint about the medical merits of vaccination for the individual, the government is not going to loosen restrictions until we hit the level. Complain all you want about civil liberties, government overreach, that is our reality so if we want freedom that is the price right now and nothing is going to change that
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@siam said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@mariner4life yep, exactly.
And not one person on here got the vaccine primarily for health benefits.
What a situation: take a widely distributed experimental vaccine because it saves you more from the government, than the actual pathogenic virus.
😄
Hmm. Speaking as a 53yo with comorbidities ... primarily? ... yeah well ... my sense of responsibility to the wellbeing of my fellow citizens was up there too.
Selfish desires for travel definitely third though.
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@siam said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
With so many vaccinated people surviving covid so effectively I think the only danger is death or ICU. I mean with no long term data the outcomes are pretty much just recover, hospitalised and death aren't they?
You do accept that being vaccinated dramatically reduces the risk of hospitalization or death - don't you?