Coronavirus - New Zealand
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Yay! Jacinda says we’re having a vax-a-thon. Paddy Gower says it will be magical.
You remember back in the 6th form there was that bunch of kids who sucked up to the teachers and used that to push their way into dominating everything? And they had weird ideas that turned every social event into a cringefest? How they ruined everything with their total wankness?
Those fluffybunnies are running the country now.
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@jc said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Yay! Jacinda says we’re having a vax-a-thon. Paddy Gower says it will be magical.
You remember back in the 6th form there was that bunch of kids who sucked up to the teachers and used that to push their way into dominating everything? And they had weird ideas that turned every social event into a cringefest? How they ruined everything with their total wankness?
Those fluffybunnies are running the country now.
Sounds very wanky but if it works.....
I won't be watching.
Anything that gets the unvaxed vaxed is OK.
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@jc said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
Yay! Jacinda says we’re having a vax-a-thon. Paddy Gower says it will be magical.
You remember back in the 6th form there was that bunch of kids who sucked up to the teachers and used that to push their way into dominating everything? And they had weird ideas that turned every social event into a cringefest? How they ruined everything with their total wankness?
Those fluffybunnies are running the country now.
Telethons only worked because there was no TV after "9pm" (Obviously a bit later but it was early) There is no chance a Telethon is going to work in this day in age.
What is she thinking? Just awful
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@hooroo surprised there arent prizes!!
I'm with @Crucial in that if it gets more people vaxxed, then great, but I'm not convinced it will work, plus I see there are more of Tamaki's cronies protests organised around the country for the same day too, so am sure that will help...
Lets see the daily comparative though?
I can't see this being of interest to those that don't want to vaccinate. They will be too busy with Dr Facebook for there information. The ignorant fluffybunnies
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@hooroo oh I agree, I think there may only be a few points more of people that were fence sitting or hadn't been for whatever reason, but if it does get thier 100k great, but cant see it.
Was talking to my neighbour on the weekend, he hasn't yet citing being too busy at work, but said his employer is making noises about them all getting vaxed...it will be his wife who will be harder to convince, who isn't anti Vax but very much into
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Anyone who doesn’t get vaccinated can absolutely get fucked as far as I’m concerned. We have a bit of a family reunion thing happening next year which is in major jeopardy because these fluffybunnies think they know best. Their crackpot theories and keyboard research is a massive part of the reason we are in the mess we are in.
Their “I don’t want the government telling me what to do” stance is bullshit too. I don’t agree with the government on a lot of stuff but the vaccine should be common sense and they shouldn’t have to encourage people much like I don’t need Jacinda to tell me not to walk in front of a bus cos it might maim/kill me.
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@kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@rapido So roughly if you catch covid, 13% chance of hospitalisation if unvaccinated which drops to 4% when double jabbed.
So assuming we get to around 90%, someone who's better at maths can workout the rough guide for that extra 10% and work out how many cases it would take to fill 500 ICU beds.
That's not right. No way the hospitalisation rate amongst the general population is 13%.
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@majorrage said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@rapido So roughly if you catch covid, 13% chance of hospitalisation if unvaccinated which drops to 4% when double jabbed.
So assuming we get to around 90%, someone who's better at maths can workout the rough guide for that extra 10% and work out how many cases it would take to fill 500 ICU beds.
That's not right. No way the hospitalisation rate amongst the general population is 13%.
That’s the link we were using. I only had half an eye on it thanks to work, would be interested in another mathbot looking at it.
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@kirwan So total cases of 4.704 and 303 have had to to go hospital - so that's around 6% raw data. Then you have 19 in ICU. So that's 0.4% of known infections go into ICU or 1 in 250.
Two things not known on the above. Estimated diagnosis rate - remember this goes right back to the start, when testing was extremely limited, and then what hospitalisation means. Does this include those who visited a doctor? Or just this admitted for at least a night.
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@majorrage there tonnes of world data to look at, no need to extrapolate nz's little data pool
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@muddyriver said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@majorrage there tonnes of world data to look at, no need to extrapolate nz's little data pool
I was answering Kirwan's question on the back of my statement. He's looking at NZ figures using NZ demographics.
If you want a UK comparison, we've been going on at about 35,000 cases a day for months, with 700 per day going into hospital. That's 2%. That number is significantly lower than the 13 or 4% mentioned earlier. And it's well documented that vaccination drops down your hospitalisation chances by 90%. UK is roughly 70% fully vac'd - including babies and kids.
Thus, you can assume 70 * 35,000 = 24,500 cases into vacated, 10,500 into non-vac.
If vaccinator reduces your hospital rate by 90% then, you have to assume that rate for unvaccinated is 10x.
Basic bit of algebra tells you the vaccine hosp rate is around 1 in 200, whilst for unvaccinated is 1 in 20. Or 0.5% / 5%. -
@majorrage said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@kirwan So total cases of 4.704 and 303 have had to to go hospital - so that's around 6% raw data. Then you have 19 in ICU. So that's 0.4% of known infections go into ICU or 1 in 250.
Two things not known on the above. Estimated diagnosis rate - remember this goes right back to the start, when testing was extremely limited, and then what hospitalisation means. Does this include those who visited a doctor? Or just this admitted for at least a night.
Kirwan's maths was on the section on the current outbreak. Which is almost 10% hospitalisations rate, which they've broken down by their vax status at time of infection.
Your maths is on the total numbers since day 1 in 2020. Which hasn't been broken down by vax status.
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The calculator on here offers a cool look at your individual risk factor based on population data
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You fuckers all better get jabbed. I'm practically dead already 81/100!!!
I think I'll go and have a lie down.
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
You fuckers all better get jabbed. I'm practically dead already 81/100!!!
I think I'll go and have a lie down.
You win! I'm at 58.
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@kirwan said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - New Zealand:
You fuckers all better get jabbed. I'm practically dead already 81/100!!!
I think I'll go and have a lie down.
You win! I'm at 58.
Were you white British or white Irish? I am 57 out of 100. I chose White British but prolly should have gone Irish given my name