New Lynn knife attack
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Damian Grant's take on the system:
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@godder said in New Lynn knife attack:
Damian Grant's take on the system:
I’m sure that’s a comforting read for the families of his victims, and might get a few pats on the back for the politicians that failed to get the law right here.
A system that doesn’t protect the lives of its citizens over the right of someone in the process of becoming a citizen needs to fixed urgently.
We have no obligation to take risky people like this until we fix that as well. We are not responsible for the worlds ills.
We are responsible for each other however, and we have been failed here. No spin can deny that.
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@kirwan said in New Lynn knife attack:
@godder said in New Lynn knife attack:
Damian Grant's take on the system:
I’m sure that’s a comforting read for the families of his victims, and might get a few pats on the back for the politicians that failed to get the law right here.
> A system that doesn’t protect the lives of its citizens over the right of someone in the process of becoming a citizen needs to fixed urgently.
We have no obligation to take risky people like this until we fix that as well. We are not responsible for the worlds ills.
We are responsible for each other however, and we have been failed here. No spin can deny that.
This.
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Grant says IPT clearly got it wrong in accepting the claim originally, and there should obviously be an offence in the antiterrorism legislation for planning attacks, so it's not like he's suggesting those parts were good, just that he's pleased that the law as written was complied with.
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@godder said in New Lynn knife attack:
Grant says IPT clearly got it wrong in accepting the claim originally, and there should obviously be an offence in the antiterrorism legislation for planning attacks, so it's not like he's suggesting those parts were good, just that he's pleased that the law as written was complied with.
Which is not seeing the forest for the trees.
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@godder said in New Lynn knife attack:
Grant says IPT clearly got it wrong in accepting the claim originally, and there should obviously be an offence in the antiterrorism legislation for planning attacks, so it's not like he's suggesting those parts were good, just that he's pleased that the law as written was complied with.
@kirwan said in New Lynn knife attack:
@godder said in New Lynn knife attack:
Grant says IPT clearly got it wrong in accepting the claim originally, and there should obviously be an offence in the antiterrorism legislation for planning attacks, so it's not like he's suggesting those parts were good, just that he's pleased that the law as written was complied with.
Which is not seeing the forest for the trees.
2021 ... where the lefty is defending Damian Grant and the conservative is disagreeing ...
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@kirwan said in New Lynn knife attack:
@godder said in New Lynn knife attack:
Grant says IPT clearly got it wrong in accepting the claim originally, and there should obviously be an offence in the antiterrorism legislation for planning attacks, so it's not like he's suggesting those parts were good, just that he's pleased that the law as written was complied with.
Which is not seeing the forest for the trees.
He'd no doubt say that about your comment. Executive overreach (or worse) is a problem with centuries of historical examples.
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@booboo said in New Lynn knife attack:
@godder said in New Lynn knife attack:
Grant says IPT clearly got it wrong in accepting the claim originally, and there should obviously be an offence in the antiterrorism legislation for planning attacks, so it's not like he's suggesting those parts were good, just that he's pleased that the law as written was complied with.
@kirwan said in New Lynn knife attack:
@godder said in New Lynn knife attack:
Grant says IPT clearly got it wrong in accepting the claim originally, and there should obviously be an offence in the antiterrorism legislation for planning attacks, so it's not like he's suggesting those parts were good, just that he's pleased that the law as written was complied with.
Which is not seeing the forest for the trees.
2021 ... where the lefty is defending Damian Grant and the conservative is disagreeing ...
Mistrust of authority is not exclusive to either the left or right wing, there is plenty of history of both being poorly treated by governments. Labour parties and trade unions often use red as a signature colour to represent the blood shed by workers in struggles for decent working conditions. Whatever I can say about modern NZ politics, nobody is suggesting sending out the police and/or army to attack the workers' strike/picket/march or anything like it.
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@godder said in New Lynn knife attack:
@booboo said in New Lynn knife attack:
@godder said in New Lynn knife attack:
Grant says IPT clearly got it wrong in accepting the claim originally, and there should obviously be an offence in the antiterrorism legislation for planning attacks, so it's not like he's suggesting those parts were good, just that he's pleased that the law as written was complied with.
@kirwan said in New Lynn knife attack:
@godder said in New Lynn knife attack:
Grant says IPT clearly got it wrong in accepting the claim originally, and there should obviously be an offence in the antiterrorism legislation for planning attacks, so it's not like he's suggesting those parts were good, just that he's pleased that the law as written was complied with.
Which is not seeing the forest for the trees.
2021 ... where the lefty is defending Damian Grant and the conservative is disagreeing ...
Mistrust of authority is not exclusive to either the left or right wing, there is plenty of history of both being poorly treated by governments. Labour parties and trade unions often use red as a signature colour to represent the blood shed by workers in struggles for decent working conditions. Whatever I can say about modern NZ politics, nobody is suggesting sending out the police and/or army to attack the workers' strike/picket/march or anything like it.
Drama queens
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@kirwan said in New Lynn knife attack:
@godder said in New Lynn knife attack:
@booboo said in New Lynn knife attack:
@godder said in New Lynn knife attack:
Grant says IPT clearly got it wrong in accepting the claim originally, and there should obviously be an offence in the antiterrorism legislation for planning attacks, so it's not like he's suggesting those parts were good, just that he's pleased that the law as written was complied with.
@kirwan said in New Lynn knife attack:
@godder said in New Lynn knife attack:
Grant says IPT clearly got it wrong in accepting the claim originally, and there should obviously be an offence in the antiterrorism legislation for planning attacks, so it's not like he's suggesting those parts were good, just that he's pleased that the law as written was complied with.
Which is not seeing the forest for the trees.
2021 ... where the lefty is defending Damian Grant and the conservative is disagreeing ...
Mistrust of authority is not exclusive to either the left or right wing, there is plenty of history of both being poorly treated by governments. Labour parties and trade unions often use red as a signature colour to represent the blood shed by workers in struggles for decent working conditions. Whatever I can say about modern NZ politics, nobody is suggesting sending out the police and/or army to attack the workers' strike/picket/march or anything like it.
Drama queens
Absolutely.
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@kirwan said in New Lynn knife attack:
@godder said in New Lynn knife attack:
@booboo said in New Lynn knife attack:
@godder said in New Lynn knife attack:
Grant says IPT clearly got it wrong in accepting the claim originally, and there should obviously be an offence in the antiterrorism legislation for planning attacks, so it's not like he's suggesting those parts were good, just that he's pleased that the law as written was complied with.
@kirwan said in New Lynn knife attack:
@godder said in New Lynn knife attack:
Grant says IPT clearly got it wrong in accepting the claim originally, and there should obviously be an offence in the antiterrorism legislation for planning attacks, so it's not like he's suggesting those parts were good, just that he's pleased that the law as written was complied with.
Which is not seeing the forest for the trees.
2021 ... where the lefty is defending Damian Grant and the conservative is disagreeing ...
Mistrust of authority is not exclusive to either the left or right wing, there is plenty of history of both being poorly treated by governments. Labour parties and trade unions often use red as a signature colour to represent the blood shed by workers in struggles for decent working conditions. Whatever I can say about modern NZ politics, nobody is suggesting sending out the police and/or army to attack the workers' strike/picket/march or anything like it.
Drama queens
Very Victor Hugo