Coronavirus - Overall
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Enter Sandman.
I count about two or three masks. They’re either back to normal, given up, or really don’t giveafuck any more.
Good times.
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@kid-chocolate always amazed at thier stadiums and attendance!
Thats crazy for a college game (googled >65,000 capacity)
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@kid-chocolate wrong thread, but one day I'd love to go and see a few NCAA games in early autumn. Would be sensational - and VT with their entry would be on the list. It just looks like it's going off there
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@taniwharugby The likes of Michigan State and Ohio State have stadiums with capacities in excess of 100,000.
Having been to a few college football games myself in a 70,000 capacity stadium you can be a long way from the field and the players look like ants.
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@nzzp said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@kid-chocolate wrong thread, but one day I'd love to go and see a few NCAA games in early autumn. Would be sensational - and VT with their entry would be on the list. It just looks like it's going off there
I did my undergraduate internship at Iowa State, working with the Athletics Dept.
Was allowed to ‘suit up’ (support staff, lots of polyester) for the Iowa State v Iowa game and got to watch the match from the touch line.
55,000 crowd
Immense noise from the crowd
Hits were like gun shots
Will never forget it
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@bovidae said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@taniwharugby The likes of Michigan State and Ohio State have stadiums with capacities in excess of 100,000.
Spartan Stadium holds about 75K. You’re thinking of “The Big House” (Michigan Stadium) in Ann Arbor, which has 110K capacity and has seated up to 115,000. EVERY game, going back prob 30-40 years at least, is a sellout.
Do not confuse Spartans and Wolverines. Fightin’ words!!
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@snowy said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@tim said in Coronavirus - Overall:
COVID renews interest in radiation, but doctors caution against pilgrimages to radon-filled mines
What a world.
Yep. Easier ways.
Build a stone / granite house and get it all the time. Move to Rome. Radon all over the place. No need to sit in a bloody mine.
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I'm behind on all the COVID news, can someone udate me on the correlation between COVID fatalities and hospitalization to obesity? Just wondering why, extra stress on the heart or compression on lungs, perhaps?
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@nostrildamus said in Coronavirus - Overall:
I'm behind on all the COVID news, can someone udate me on the correlation between COVID fatalities and hospitalization to obesity? Just wondering why, extra stress on the heart or compression on lungs, perhaps?
My uneducated unscientific guess is that obesity is probably awful for every virus and ailment known to man. My guess is obesity — morbid obesity — is the real silent killer. If some of what Sgt Hartman called Private Pyle “disgusting fatbodies” spent more time dieting and on a treadmill the past year and a half all our societies would be better protected in the public health sphere. But what do I know? Guvment and media tells me I’m a fat-shaming bigot hater and to shutup, bend over and take the vaxx.
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@kid-chocolate said in Coronavirus - Overall:
Guvment and media tells me I’m a fat-shaming bigot hater and to shutup, bend over and take the vaxx.
Your doctor must really like you. Mine just asked for my arm.
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@kid-chocolate said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@nostrildamus said in Coronavirus - Overall:
I'm behind on all the COVID news, can someone udate me on the correlation between COVID fatalities and hospitalization to obesity? Just wondering why, extra stress on the heart or compression on lungs, perhaps?
My uneducated unscientific guess is that obesity is probably awful for every virus and ailment known to man. My guess is obesity — morbid obesity — is the real silent killer. If some of what Sgt Hartman called Private Pyle “disgusting fatbodies” spent more time dieting and on a treadmill the past year and a half all our societies would be better protected in the public health sphere. But what do I know? Guvment and media tells me I’m a fat-shaming bigot hater and to shutup, bend over and take the vaxx.
Obesity is one risk factor, but if you're talking about the overall risk of death from CoVid in society, it's really a relatively minor risk factor compared with age.
This is the OpenSafely analysis of the the medical records of 17million+ UK adults aged 18 upwards cross-referenced to 10,000+ deaths in the UK. So a pretty good sample. OpenSafely is an academic collaboration between our NHS Health Service, University of Oxford and other institutions (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7611074/)
Hope it helps paint a broad picture on CoVid risk factors.
Not sure this is a binary decision, perhaps your safest approach is both staying slim and being vaxxed too??
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@nostrildamus said in Coronavirus - Overall:
I'm behind on all the COVID news, can someone udate me on the correlation between COVID fatalities and hospitalization to obesity? Just wondering why, extra stress on the heart or compression on lungs, perhaps?
This was pretty recent paper (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8073853/) which suggests three main reasons obesity is a risk factor with CoVid. I have done my best to summarise ...
1 - Potentially viral entry is easier in obese people ... tbh the science on viral entry receptors is totally beyond me!!
2 - Impaired immunity systems in obese people ... leads to a higher risk immune systems can't deal with the virus and go into an out-of-control overdrive mode known as a "cytokine storm" which is really when CoVid starts to damages you badly / kills you
3 - Obesity effects blood coagulation and can "contribute" (I assume increase and accelerate here) to the progression of clots and hemorrhage
So yeah, your lungs and heart can get f*cked by Covid but really the underlying cause is weakened immune systems.
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@landp thanks
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@majorrage said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@landp this is all great stuff, thanks for sharing.
The way I see it obesity isn’t as bad a factor as x, but as x affects 1% population and obesity, 30% then obesity is the biggest problem.
Yeah, there's a bunch of regression calculations they did to pull out the individual risk factors which is way beyond me but the results are very enlightening. The factors would be cumulative per individual so simplistically -
Young + Slim = Tiny mortality risk
Young + Obese = Increased but low risk
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Over-80 = Very high risk
Over-80 + Obese = Extremely high risk
Over-80 + Obese + a pre-condition or two = "Good luck, probably see you in ICU"Race has been positioned since early on as a (politically sensitive) "risk factor" in the UK, mainly I suspect because raw stats conflated it with other factors including obesity. This study really breaks it all out.
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@nostrildamus said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@snowy said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@tim said in Coronavirus - Overall:
COVID renews interest in radiation, but doctors caution against pilgrimages to radon-filled mines
What a world.
Yep. Easier ways.
Build a stone / granite house and get it all the time. Move to Rome. Radon all over the place. No need to sit in a bloody mine.
That article has a "basement cellar" in the diagram, best of both maybe.
The "appliances" are quite different to mine. I have another person that I want to put in there but I can't get to the fucker. His turn will come.
The covid mortality stats could still be a bit skewed (for want of a better word) to me. Sure this 90 year old in NZ that died did so of covid it seems, but she couldn't receive medical treatment (ventilator or ICU care) due to underlying conditions. So how long was she expected to last anyway?
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@snowy said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@nostrildamus said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@snowy said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@tim said in Coronavirus - Overall:
COVID renews interest in radiation, but doctors caution against pilgrimages to radon-filled mines
What a world.
Yep. Easier ways.
Build a stone / granite house and get it all the time. Move to Rome. Radon all over the place. No need to sit in a bloody mine.
That article has a "basement cellar" in the diagram, best of both maybe.
The "appliances" are quite different to mine. I have another person that I want to put in there but I can't get to the fucker. His turn will come.
The covid mortality stats could still be a bit skewed (for want of a better word) to me. Sure this 90 year old in NZ that died did so of covid it seems, but she couldn't receive medical treatment (ventilator or ICU care) due to underlying conditions. So how long was she expected to last anyway?
It was covid. But it sounds like it could have been anything in the end, she was pretty poorly
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@kid-chocolate said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@bovidae said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@taniwharugby The likes of Michigan State and Ohio State have stadiums with capacities in excess of 100,000.
Spartan Stadium holds about 75K. You’re thinking of “The Big House” (Michigan Stadium) in Ann Arbor, which has 110K capacity and has seated up to 115,000. EVERY game, going back prob 30-40 years at least, is a sellout.
Do not confuse Spartans and Wolverines. Fightin’ words!!
Yeah, a typo by me. I had state in my head thinking about "The Ohio State University". Even though I'm a Big 10 fan I don't support either team.
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@snowy said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@nostrildamus said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@snowy said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@tim said in Coronavirus - Overall:
COVID renews interest in radiation, but doctors caution against pilgrimages to radon-filled mines
What a world.
Yep. Easier ways.
Build a stone / granite house and get it all the time. Move to Rome. Radon all over the place. No need to sit in a bloody mine.
That article has a "basement cellar" in the diagram, best of both maybe.
The "appliances" are quite different to mine. I have another person that I want to put in there but I can't get to the fucker. His turn will come.
The covid mortality stats could still be a bit skewed (for want of a better word) to me. Sure this 90 year old in NZ that died did so of covid it seems, but she couldn't receive medical treatment (ventilator or ICU care) due to underlying conditions. So how long was she expected to last anyway?
It was covid. But it sounds like it could have been anything in the end, she was pretty poorly
Which was the point. Maybe they need a have a life expectancy factor in "covid" death stats.
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@snowy said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@canefan said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@snowy said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@nostrildamus said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@snowy said in Coronavirus - Overall:
@tim said in Coronavirus - Overall:
COVID renews interest in radiation, but doctors caution against pilgrimages to radon-filled mines
What a world.
Yep. Easier ways.
Build a stone / granite house and get it all the time. Move to Rome. Radon all over the place. No need to sit in a bloody mine.
That article has a "basement cellar" in the diagram, best of both maybe.
The "appliances" are quite different to mine. I have another person that I want to put in there but I can't get to the fucker. His turn will come.
The covid mortality stats could still be a bit skewed (for want of a better word) to me. Sure this 90 year old in NZ that died did so of covid it seems, but she couldn't receive medical treatment (ventilator or ICU care) due to underlying conditions. So how long was she expected to last anyway?
It was covid. But it sounds like it could have been anything in the end, she was pretty poorly
Which was the point. Maybe they need a have a life expectancy factor in "covid" death stats.
Yeah we are in agreement. I'm happy that the media tried to make it clear she wasn't a well person to begin with.