All Whites
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@bovidae said in All Whites:
I have a NZ football shirt and it doesn't actually have "All Whites" written on it. There is a black silver fern with "New Zealand Football" written below it. Unlike the AB jersey, which does say "All Blacks".
Well that's torpedos Shark's hypothetical pretty comprehensively.
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@kirwan said in All Whites:
@bovidae said in All Whites:
I have a NZ football shirt and it doesn't actually have "All Whites" written on it. There is a black silver fern with "New Zealand Football" written below it. Unlike the AB jersey, which does say "All Blacks".
Well that's torpedos Shark's hypothetical pretty comprehensively.
Thoroughly incorrect. The hypothetical scenario still stands as I never said it would be a playing shirt. It could be a NZ soccer version of some of the cheap All Blacks knock off crap you see around, as an example. And I wonder in fact if NZ Football normally don't have the nickname on the shirt, possibly due to the potential for the team name to be misinterpeted ala the entire thread premise?
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@kiwimurph said in All Whites:
This is all great publicity for New Zealand football.
For all 48 paying attention
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@shark said in All Whites:
And I wonder in fact if NZ Football normally don't have the nickname on the shirt, possibly due to the potential for the team name to be misinterpeted ala the entire thread premise?
I'm pretty sure it is always just the FA logo and that's it. FIFA are pretty strict on that sort of thing.
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@rotated said in All Whites:
@shark said in All Whites:
And I wonder in fact if NZ Football normally don't have the nickname on the shirt, possibly due to the potential for the team name to be misinterpeted ala the entire thread premise?
I'm pretty sure it is always just the FA logo and that's it. FIFA are pretty strict on that sort of thing.
Yep. I don't believe you see Azzuri, Der Mannschaft, Oransjekekej (or whatever the fark it is in Dutch) on jerseys.
What I find bizarre is certain people freaking out about how others MIGHT (and that's reaching in the extreme) perceive the name. I watched the All Whites WC games with a group that included a couple of Angolans and a black Venezuelan. Not only were they not triggered by the name, they were genuinely interested in the connection to the rugby team. So then I invited them to watch an AB game with me. Which they loved. Maybe they didn't have a lily white woke idiot to explain to them that they should have been offended.
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@rapido said in All Whites:
I suggest "Los Blancos" as the new name.
Don't think it is taken yet? (except by the biggest football club in the world)
Ma Katoa
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@windows97 said in All Whites:
The "All Wokes" is still open as an option, with a logo of a volvo driving soccer mum and a mascot named Karen.
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FFS. Stuff like people cancelling the terms All Whites for the NZ soccer team and All Blacks for the NZ Rugby team used to be a joke. Now the PC Thought Police Brigade think they can tell everyone what to say and what to think, it's not such a joke.
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@booboo said in All Whites:
@rapido said in All Whites:
I suggest "Los Blancos" as the new name.
Don't think it is taken yet? (except by the biggest football club in the world)
Ma Katoa
I'm surprised this got so little love.
I intend charging NZ Soccer thoooooouuussands for this idea.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in All Whites:
@junior said in All Whites:
@rancid-schnitzel said in All Whites:
@majorrage said in All Whites:
@mn5 said in All Whites:
How come the All Whites are in the firing line and not the All Blacks ?
Is it cos one team is iconic and dominant and the other is shit ?
They aren't in the firing line. NZ Football is taking this stance under the assumption of being in the firing line in the near future.
What's the "firing line"? Some tweets from people who introduce themselves with their preferred pronouns?
Who then cause shit all over social media, who then get published in the mainstream media by lazy / thick journalists, all of which potentially affects the credibility of the team for a significant (but not necessarily large) portion of the public (mainly the idiots) who then won't let their idiot sons and / or daughters play or watch the sport, which further affects the credibility of the sport, which then obviously affects sponsorship and money into the sport (because Nike and all other likely sponsors have also gone woke), which means there's less money for the players and more importantly the administrators at all levels, which is actually what the name change is really seeking to avoid
It doesn't have to be that way. Simply clearly explain the origins of the name and history behind it. Anyone who then still has a problem with it will just expose themselves for the lunatics they are. Case in point: this thread.
I agree it doesn’t have to be this way but even if we do as you quite feasibly suggest people will still get scared about losing their jobs, money etc because there are enough examples of it happening to make those fears legitimate. I wish we lived in a world where calmly and rationally explaining things actually worked but it rarely does and as long as that’s the case people will continue to be bullied into stupid decisions like this to protect themselves and the people and things they love
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@windows97 said in All Whites:
The "All Wokes" is still open as an option, with a logo of a volvo driving soccer mum and a mascot named Karen.
Post of the Year so far for me.
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'Will they change the All Blacks?': All Whites great on possible name change
The All Whites top goalscorer says he's baffled by any thoughts to change the team name.
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@junior said in All Whites:
@rancid-schnitzel said in All Whites:
@junior said in All Whites:
@rancid-schnitzel said in All Whites:
@majorrage said in All Whites:
@mn5 said in All Whites:
How come the All Whites are in the firing line and not the All Blacks ?
Is it cos one team is iconic and dominant and the other is shit ?
They aren't in the firing line. NZ Football is taking this stance under the assumption of being in the firing line in the near future.
What's the "firing line"? Some tweets from people who introduce themselves with their preferred pronouns?
Who then cause shit all over social media, who then get published in the mainstream media by lazy / thick journalists, all of which potentially affects the credibility of the team for a significant (but not necessarily large) portion of the public (mainly the idiots) who then won't let their idiot sons and / or daughters play or watch the sport, which further affects the credibility of the sport, which then obviously affects sponsorship and money into the sport (because Nike and all other likely sponsors have also gone woke), which means there's less money for the players and more importantly the administrators at all levels, which is actually what the name change is really seeking to avoid
It doesn't have to be that way. Simply clearly explain the origins of the name and history behind it. Anyone who then still has a problem with it will just expose themselves for the lunatics they are. Case in point: this thread.
I agree it doesn’t have to be this way but even if we do as you quite feasibly suggest people will still get scared about losing their jobs, money etc because there are enough examples of it happening to make those fears legitimate. I wish we lived in a world where calmly and rationally explaining things actually worked but it rarely does and as long as that’s the case people will continue to be bullied into stupid decisions like this to protect themselves and the people and things they love
All the more reason to stand up to it. I generally believe that this whole rotten edifice will come crashing down if some backbone is shown. And it should also be noted that the perpetually offended have the attention span of a gnat and you only need to wait it out for a bit until they latch on to the next thing to be offended about.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in All Whites:
@junior said in All Whites:
@rancid-schnitzel said in All Whites:
@junior said in All Whites:
@rancid-schnitzel said in All Whites:
@majorrage said in All Whites:
@mn5 said in All Whites:
How come the All Whites are in the firing line and not the All Blacks ?
Is it cos one team is iconic and dominant and the other is shit ?
They aren't in the firing line. NZ Football is taking this stance under the assumption of being in the firing line in the near future.
What's the "firing line"? Some tweets from people who introduce themselves with their preferred pronouns?
Who then cause shit all over social media, who then get published in the mainstream media by lazy / thick journalists, all of which potentially affects the credibility of the team for a significant (but not necessarily large) portion of the public (mainly the idiots) who then won't let their idiot sons and / or daughters play or watch the sport, which further affects the credibility of the sport, which then obviously affects sponsorship and money into the sport (because Nike and all other likely sponsors have also gone woke), which means there's less money for the players and more importantly the administrators at all levels, which is actually what the name change is really seeking to avoid
It doesn't have to be that way. Simply clearly explain the origins of the name and history behind it. Anyone who then still has a problem with it will just expose themselves for the lunatics they are. Case in point: this thread.
I agree it doesn’t have to be this way but even if we do as you quite feasibly suggest people will still get scared about losing their jobs, money etc because there are enough examples of it happening to make those fears legitimate. I wish we lived in a world where calmly and rationally explaining things actually worked but it rarely does and as long as that’s the case people will continue to be bullied into stupid decisions like this to protect themselves and the people and things they love
All the more reason to stand up to it. I generally believe that this whole rotten edifice will come crashing down if some backbone is shown. And it should also be noted that the perpetually offended have the attention span of a gnat and you only need to wait it out for a bit until they latch on to the next thing to be offended about.
A bit like a rip, rather than fight perhaps its better to let it pass then carry on your business
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OFC are trying to find a way to fuck over NZ football in the WC qualifiers. Oceania should just merge with Asia but that won't happen if Oceania gets a direct qualifier from 2026.
