Anzac Day
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="574655" data-time="1461555151"><p>It's the first year I've heard kids being noisey, I can understand it to a certain degree but I agree with you about them moving away as s courtesy. What kind of fuckwit brings a dog especially one that whines and yaps?</p></blockquote><br>It's no longer about solemn remembrance - it's about being able to tell people you were there.<br><br><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Baron Silas Greenback" data-cid="574660" data-time="1461557626"><p>How?</p></blockquote><br>Because drinking and two-up.
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<p>It's no longer about solemn remembrance - it's about being able to tell people you were there.</p>
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<p>Very much so. FB feed is full of people checking in at dawn services. Dubious as to why you'd do this.</p> -
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Very much so. FB feed is full of people checking in at dawn services. Dubious as to why you'd do this.</p></blockquote>
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This is pretty sad , I get the sense some people are trying to out grieve each other a bit.<br><br>
It was a little bit different this year at the end , the sergeant major in charge of the parade tore into us like we at basic training which got a few laughs . -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Smudge" data-cid="574654" data-time="1461554019">
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<p>I have started a shitfight on my Facebook page after complaining about these two toddlers who were talking and moaning all the way through the service. We were right next to them and yes, we could have moved, but there were plenty of others turning around and giving disapproving looks at the little shits. I could almost tolerate talking and mumbling while the hymns etc are on, but the dipshit father should have recognised the worst of his two kids wasn't going to shut up during the silent tribute (seeing as he hadn't stopped dribbling shit out of his mouth for the previous 45 minutes) and moved the kid away from the crowd for a couple of minutes. Needless to say he didn't, and needless to say the kid didn't shut up.</p>
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<p>Naturally, some of my "parent'' friends have defended taking kids along to the service. That wasn't my point of course but it's a pleasure watching them get up in arms.</p>
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<p>My opinion on this is stay away if you have young children. You can be thankful at home. The parents who think they are being the ultimate patriots by showing their children they have respect for the Anzacs are stupid. Don't bring your "the Anzacs fought for our freedom and I am exercising mine by bringing my screaming kids to dawn service." argument here either.</p>
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<p>Your kids don't know where they are. They just know its dark, cold and there are tons of strangers standing there, silent, in the dark....</p>
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<p>Take your kids after 6yrs. They know when to shut up mostly and they can at least try to comprehend the importance of the occasion.</p>
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<p>Honestly and sincerely parents, stop being c@nts.</p> -
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<p>Wasn't really my point ... but you know that.</p>
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<p>My point was, even pubs should have a think about their opening hours on Anzac Day.</p>
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<p>If there are services, then I have no issue with the RSL being open if old mates want to catch up for a beer / cuppa and have a chat. That is what the RSL is for, IMHO - a place for those people who have served, and to help raise funds for those who have served, and need help (Legacy etc).</p> -
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<p><strong>My point was, even pubs should have a think about their opening hours on Anzac Day.</strong></p>
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<p>If there are services, then I have no issue with the RSL being open if old mates want to catch up for a beer / cuppa and have a chat. That is what the RSL is for, IMHO - a place for those people who have served, and to help raise funds for those who have served, and need help (Legacy etc).</p>
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<p>Your Aussienglish didn't translate correctly ;), it appeared as you were still coming down on the shopkeeper while ignoring the pubs.</p> -
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<p>No run by Indians?</p>
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<p>Cowboys!</p>
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<p>I took my kids to a service (not the dawn one) about 4 years ago and my daughter was only 3, and she talked a little, but only in asking questions about things, I moved to the back, one old fella gave us the evils, but another came back and was really helpful in telling her in much better detail than I could.</p>
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<p>Only taken TR Jnr to Dawn services, although Miss TR is now at the point where she is old enough to come along too and know when to keep quiet...only issue will be waking her before dawn! </p> -
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<p>Your Aussienglish didn't translate correctly ;), it appeared as you were still coming down on the shopkeeper while ignoring the pubs.</p>
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<p>If, say, it was a small town, and the RSL sub-branch was closed, and the pub was the only watering hole, then yeah, open. Even if you're owned by Indians :)</p>
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<p>And its 'Strayan, not your bloody complicated word</p> -
My dad died 51 weeks ago today. <br><br>
His wife invited my bro and I to take something to remember him by. <br><br>
I was shocked to find his Aussie dog tags in his bedside drawer. <br><br>
Says a lot I reckon that through over 30 house moves he had them next to him at 84. <br><br>
I was über proud to wear them today. <br><br>
Being so close to the first anniversary of his death made it even more poignant but I was humbled to be able to wear them and recognise those that gave us the freedoms we enjoy today. -
He signed up at 15 and 5 foot 2 but WW2 ended before he finished training. <br><br>
He was in J force. Made it to Japan in time to participate in official surrender ceremony. <br><br>
Then was sent to Hiroshima to help with relief. <br><br>
Was also a part of relief part for 48 Tokyo quake. <br><br>
So never in combat but saw a lot.<br><br>
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This might interest you , I haven't read it but J force got a bit of attention when the book came out <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.penguin.co.nz/products/9780143567240/occupiers-new-zealand-veterans-remember-post-war-japan/74437/extract'>http://www.penguin.co.nz/products/9780143567240/occupiers-new-zealand-veterans-remember-post-war-japan/74437/extract</a>
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Thanks jegga<br><br>
My old man never talked about his service apart from an island he went to with a really tall statue of a dick -the difficulties in getting to know the local popn and because he saw their suffering first hand the contrast with how he had felt about them and how many of the vets he served with still did. <br><br>
He didn't like the yanks. Very racist he thought. <br><br>
And like the article he felt bad he hadn't seen combat. <br><br>
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<p>Fuck yeah - make sure you're wearing a GoPro.</p>
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<p>I took the boy out for a ride this morning and some shops were open before midday. Now I know its tough to run a small business, but at least fucking hold off until midday Mr Indian Grocery Store Owner. No-one will die if you don't sell something once an hour.</p>
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<p>On my morning walk I saw a bunch of pubs open, so you might want to give the Indian bloke a pass for following the lead of his fellow countrymen. </p>
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<p>Here it's 1pm on ANZAC Day, but dairies, petrol stations and places which serve food are exempt. Alcohol can be sold with food before 1pm (liquor license permitting).</p> -
<p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/retail/woolworths-facing-hefty-fines-after-breaching-anzac-day-trading-restrictions-in-nsw/news-story/b8ddd62634f84932ca6256f49ca41a91'>http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/retail/woolworths-facing-hefty-fines-after-breaching-anzac-day-trading-restrictions-in-nsw/news-story/b8ddd62634f84932ca6256f49ca41a91</a></p>
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<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);">Under NSW law, Anzac Day is classified as a restricted trading day, with large retailers including Coles, Aldi and Woolworths not permitted to open before 1:00pm.</p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);">In previous years, the NSW government would allow IR inspectors to use “common sense†and allow businesses to prepare for trade by letting staff in early, but that allowance was dropped this year by Ms Berejiklian.</p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);">Legislating for setup time was proposed as part of the Boxing Day trade amendments late last year, but was not agreed to by all parties and subsequently removed from the negotiations.</p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);">Retailers were informed of the decision several weeks ago, meaning staff were not legally allowed to enter premises before 1:00pm this year.</p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);">Under the <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/#/view/act/2008/49/part4/sec18'>NSW Retail Trading Act 2008</a>, a shop is in breach of trading restrictions if “orders for goods were received by a person in attendance at the shop†or “goods were received, or unpacked or otherwise prepared, at the shop for sale at the shopâ€.</p>
<p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);">The laws are intended to prevent stores from gaining an unfair advantage over their competitors.</p>
<p class="" style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);">Customers snapped pictures of BBQ chickens time-stamped as early as 10:50am and bread rolls labelled before 12:49pm. News.com.au understands others were told by sushi team members the sushi was prepared at 10:00am.</p>
<p class="" style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);">Breaches carry maximum penalties of $11,000 per store. Woolworths has 250 stores in New South Wales, meaning if every store is found to have breached trading restrictions, the total penalties could be as high as $2.75 million.</p>
<p class="" style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);">A maximum $11,000 penalty also applies if any team member was coerced into working.</p>
<p class="" style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);">In one recent case, a <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.industrialrelations.nsw.gov.au/biz_res/oirwww/pdfs/IGA_Appin_Prosecution_Statement.pdf'>Supa IGA in Appin was fined $1700</a> for opening on restricted trading days Good Friday and Easter Sunday and advertising that they were open.</p>
<p class="" style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);">“Any alleged breaches will be investigated by NSW Industrial Relations inspectors,†Ms Berejiklian said.</p>
<p class="" style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);">In a statement, a Woolworths spokeswoman said: “Clear direction was given to stores that volunteer salaried managers were allowed to enter and undertake certain limited preparations for opening at 1:00pm.</p>
<p class="" style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);">“This is in line with the NSW regulations. We were keen to ensure our customers’ shopping experience today, as on all days, met their expectations.â€</p>
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