Defending your home
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<p>But if you've chased someone off, how far do you go? And if it turns out you're much bigger/stronger/more dangerous what responsibility sits with you to rein it in? </p>
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<p>FWIW I've been advised that if they're leaving, let them go.</p>
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<p>As to the other question; that's the difficult one to answer - what is in fact reasonable? If you're a 150lb weakling confronted with a 6'4" 250lb invader, grabbing a weapon seems entirely reasonable to me. But what if the small bloke is a jedi master, etc? Often the differences aren't so obvious. Then there's the delicate matter of whether they're on drugs so don't register pain like a normal human being, or your own adrenaline which may diminish your ability to determine that the threat is no longer present</p>
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<p>yeah if they are leaving, let them go...although if they have just raped (or attempted) your daughter/wife, you are probably be a tad blinded by rage.</p>
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<p>I dont know how true it was, but when I was in the UK and I worked in an Offy for some extra ££'s to save, and one of the older guys said that if you kept a baseball bat under the counter, and someone tried something on and you hit them with it, you could get done, whereas if you grabbed bottle of wine and whacked them over the head with it, its fine because you have improvised rather than pre-meditated...sounded legit, but I still had a bat behind the door, expect it would be more of a deterrent brandishing it than a bottle of wine too!</p> -
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<p>what happened to that dude that chased and stabbed the tagger (which is obviously different defending yourself)</p>
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<p>Don't recall what happened to that guy. But that's murky territory aye. </p> -
Jail: <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/1399650/Emery-jailed-for-killing-tagger'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/1399650/Emery-jailed-for-killing-tagger</a>
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<p>thought he had, but wow, 2009, doesnt seem that long ago!! </p>
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<p>So a tagger is basically a graffiti vandal? I'd assumed it meant a guy that was wearing an ankle tag. Chasing a poxy vandal with a knife is waaaay over the top.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="568677" data-time="1459407727"><p>thought he had, but wow, 2009, doesnt seem that long ago!! <br>
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<p>This is what happens when we track things in 4 year cycles!!</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Catogrande" data-cid="568666" data-time="1459406567">
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<p>This. Kicking the shit out of some scumbag in your own home is one thing. But if you have stopped the threat and elect to continue with the reprisals then <strong>you're on thin ice legally.</strong></p>
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<p>However one less Wankpuffin (C: M.Okey 2016)) is to be considered a good thing.</p>
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<p>Yeah but theres the possibility that you're so blinded by rage at the invasion of your home, the terror said shithead inflicted on your family etc.....plus if you detain them then you're potentially stopping any chance they can do it to anyone else ?</p>
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<p>Yep MN5, a muddy pool for sure. But - if you've stopped the threat any legal defence based on self defence is open to being ruled out.</p>
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<p>Yep MN5, a muddy pool for sure. But - if you've stopped the threat any legal defence based on self defence is open to being ruled out.</p>
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<p>I have a spade and plenty of places to bury them...</p>
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<p>but unless you have 'em hog-tied and weighed down by the front wheel of my car ready for the cops, threat is real while they are in my house, watched enough movies to know they always get back up! </p> -
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<p><strong>I have a spade and plenty of places to bury them...</strong></p>
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<p>but unless you have 'em hog-tied and weighed down by the front wheel of my car ready for the cops, threat is real while they are in my house, watched enough movies to know they always get back up! </p>
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<p>.......and an alibi.....you were doing a Star Wars marathon at my place while drinking home brew.</p> -
Bo staff and wooden practice katana in the wardrobe, along with a pair of sai. <br><br>
Only issue is going to be choosing which. Sai, probably. Better for CQB and defense against weapons. <br><br>
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I hope the wardrobe is nearby and easily accessible Nick?<br><br>I have a fuck-off big Maglite under my bed, just in case the power ever goes down...
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Shovel TR. You have a shovel.
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<p>I hope the wardrobe is nearby and easily accessible Nick?</p>
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<p>Its our walk-in robe, about five steps away. Three if I'm bricking it ;)</p> -
<p>If you're someone who's wreaked revenge on a home invader then you want me on your jury.</p>
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<p>I'm quite likely not to follow the direction of the judge - since I've seen enough crap decisions from them. Knowing the law and having common sense don't necessarily go hand in hand.</p>
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<p>Fuck 'em. You turn up in someone's house, you're asking for whatever happens to you.</p>
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<p>If you're someone who's wreaked revenge on a home invader then you want me on your jury.</p>
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<p>I'm quite likely not to follow the direction of the judge - since I've seen enough crap decisions from them. Knowing the law and having common sense don't necessarily go hand in hand.</p>
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<p>Fuck 'em. You turn up in someone's house, you're asking for whatever happens to you.</p>
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<p>If I managed to get a burglar cable tied and subdued I'd call the cops [but not let him know] drag him down to the garage lay him on a polythene sheet and put on disposable overalls and get out a few of my favourite chainsaws and spend a while trying to pick one out while discussing it with him at the same time "which one do you like? ................this ones a homelite xl12 same as they used in texas chainsaw massacre.............but I think my pro mac 700 has the sharpest chain at the moment ............ " by the time the cops got there to take him away I'm sure his mental state would have changed irrecoverably without me needing to go to jail.</p>
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<p>Btw one of the guys I work with caught a burglar in his basement and knocked him out cold with a couple of blows with a pool cue, he didn't get charged with anything but the judge told the burglar he could pay for the damage by working for him for a couple of weeks for free as the burglar was jobless and would take for ever to pay it off at $10 a week. Noel was a prick to work with at the best of times, it must have really sucked working for the old bastard for free and overhearing him telling everyone why you were there and hearing them crack up at your expense, nice work there from the judge.</p>