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  • nzzpN Online
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    #179

    @Stargazer that's bloody good news. They are going well as a unit.

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    @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

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    #181

    A sign of the times when a prop is taller than backs and a loose forward.

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    @Nepia said in Blues 2021:

    @Stargazer Rangi is clearly on a box or step.

    If he is, he has the shortest and most comical shins I have ever seen.

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  • TimT Away
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    #183

    Time to take a stab at the squad, based on some players possibly being signed early on (e.g. Choat missing out):

    Props

    Tu'inukuafe
    Hodgman
    N Mayhew
    O Tu'ungafasi
    Laulala
    Renata

    Hookers

    Parsons
    Eklund
    Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

    Locks

    Tuipulotu
    Pierce
    Goodhue
    Cowley-Tuioti
    Darry

    Loose forwards

    Gibson
    Hunt
    Papalii
    Robinson
    Sotutu
    A Ioane
    Riedlinger-Kapa

    Halfbacks

    Nock
    Christie
    Ruru

    1st Five Eighths

    Black
    Perofeta
    Plummer
    Heighton

    Midfield

    Faiane
    T Tele'a
    R Ioane
    TBC

    Outside Backs

    Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
    M Telea
    Narawa
    AJ Lam
    Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
    Sullivan

    Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Would prefer to see Choat in the loose forwards.

    38 players, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

    Out:

    Lindenmuth
    Mafileo
    Carroll
    Lamborn
    Tucker
    Barrett
    Marchent
    Hyland
    Duffie
    Page

    In:

    N Mayhew
    Laulala
    Darry
    Hunt
    TBC (midfield)
    AJ Lam
    Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
    Sullivan

    Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
    North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
    Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
    Counties - 2
    BOP - 3
    Ta$man - 3
    Canterbury - 1
    Taranaki - 2

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  • TimT Away
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    #184

    Match XXIII

    Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

    1 Hodgman
    2 Eklund
    3 Laulala
    4 Tuipulotu
    5 Pierce
    6 A Ioane
    7 Papalii
    8 Sotutu

    9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
    10 Black
    11 Clarke
    12 Faiane
    13 R Ioane
    14 M Telea
    15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

    16 Parsons
    17 Tu'inukuafe
    18 Tu'ungafasi
    19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
    20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
    21 Christie
    22 Plummer
    23 T Tele'a

    With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw.

    Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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    replied to Tim on last edited by
    #185

    @Tim said in Blues 2021:

    Match XIII

    Running into Super Rugby 2021 with confidence!!!!

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    #186

    @Hooroo Ha ha! Haven't had my after lunch coffee yet!

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    #187

    MacDonald will unveil a largely settled squad for 2021 this week, though they do have one major hole to fill, with star All Blacks playmaker Beauden Barrett absent on his Japanese sabbatical. Young Auckland fullback Zarn Sullivan is expected to fill the void at fullback, with some help from utility back Stephen Perofeta.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/300171272/super-rugby-blues-bring-back-their-coaching-group-for-another-crack-in-20201

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    #188

    Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

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  • TimT Away
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    wrote on last edited by Tim
    #189

    With most of the squad known or rumoured now, it's time to take a stab at a prediction, with an allowance for some players possibly being signed early on due to COVID uncertainty (e.g. Choat missing out):

    Props

    Tu'inukuafe
    Hodgman
    N Mayhew
    O Tu'ungafasi
    Laulala
    Renata

    Hookers

    Parsons
    Eklund
    Niuia (may be replaced by Tolai until recovered from injury)

    Locks

    Tuipulotu
    Pierce
    Goodhue
    Cowley-Tuioti
    Darry

    Loose forwards

    Gibson
    Hunt
    Papalii
    Robinson
    Sotutu
    A Ioane
    Riedlinger-Kapa

    Halfbacks

    Nock
    Christie
    Ruru

    1st Five Eighths

    Black
    Perofeta
    Plummer
    Heighton

    Midfield

    Faiane
    T Tele'a
    R Ioane
    TBC

    Outside Backs

    Clarke (may be absent for Olympics Sevens)
    M Telea
    Narawa
    AJ Lam
    Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
    Sullivan

    Tei Walden may be available for a midfield pick, provided he has recovered from his achilles tendon (?) injury. AJ Lam can cover centre, and possibly Clarke too. Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter? NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020. Would like to see Choat in the loose forwards if possible.

    That's 38 players in total, looks like we had more last year due to cover for Clarke and Barrett, which included Marchant. Also had 8 loose forwards rather than 7, so maybe room for Choat yet.

    Out:

    Lindenmuth
    Mafileo
    Carroll
    Lamborn
    Tucker
    Barrett
    Marchent
    Hyland
    Duffie
    Page

    In:

    N Mayhew
    Laulala
    Darry
    Hunt
    TBC (midfield)
    AJ Lam
    Raumaitavuki-Kneepkens
    Sullivan

    Provincial breakdown:

    Auckland - 8 forwards, 8 backs, 16 total
    North Harbour - 6 forwards, 1 back, 7 total
    Northland - 2 forwards, 1 back, 3 total
    Counties - 2
    BOP - 3
    Ta$man - 3
    Canterbury - 1
    Taranaki - 2

    Match XXIII

    Big decision over fullback, maybe right wing, but that's about it. Expect plenty of rotation in the forwards

    1 Hodgman
    2 Eklund
    3 Laulala
    4 Tuipulotu
    5 Pierce
    6 A Ioane
    7 Papalii
    8 Sotutu

    9 Nock (MacDonald may favour Christie though)
    10 Black
    11 Clarke
    12 Faiane
    13 R Ioane
    14 M Telea
    15 Sullivan (tight contest with Perofeta)

    16 Parsons
    17 Tu'inukuafe
    18 Tu'ungafasi
    19 Cowley-Tuioti/Goodhue
    20 Robinson/Gibson/Hunt
    21 Christie
    22 Plummer
    23 T Tele'a

    With A Ioane showing he can attack a lineout at test level, there should be a lot of good options on either side of the lineout throw. Tuipulotu is good at attacking opposition throws at test level too, with Sotutu demonstrating that ability in SRA this year. Pierce was a standout forward in the NPC, and attacked the opposition lineout well too.

    Looking at that Blues squad, our forwards will be hard to beat. Should be able to dominate set piece and the ruck against many teams. The question is how well will the backs be able to use that ball? Black should be able to put the ball into the corners, and force full lineouts, but will we take the most of our chances, reduce errors, and make the right decisions in big games?

    Interestingly/sadly, there's only three players in that 23 from the Auckland team that played in the NPC final, and only one in the starting 15.

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    replied to Tim on last edited by
    #190

    @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

    As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

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    #191

    @taniwharugby said in Blues 2021:

    @Tim looking at the depth of the bench is impressive!

    As you say, forwards are impressive, backs will be heavily reliant on the firepower of Rieko & Clarke, and after that things get a bit thinner.

    really?

    Telea, TJ Faiane - no shame in there. Perofeta was coming into his own at 15 ... they're not world beaters, but solid enough

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    replied to nzzp on last edited by taniwharugby
    #192

    @nzzp i just meant more reliant, didn't say they were shit or anything, plus an injury and it does get thin.

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  • KiwiMurphK Online
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    #193

    What's the go with James Little? Could he maybe pick up a midfield spot?

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  • TimT Away
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    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by
    #194

    @KiwiMurph Maybe a bit small?

    Antonio Mikaele-Tu'u might be on the fringe too?

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  • TimT Away
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    #195

    Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

    NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

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    replied to Tim on last edited by
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    @Tim said in Blues 2021:

    Meihana Grindlay might be a midfield bolter?

    NZ Schools 2019, NZ U20 training squad 2020.

    He needs to prove himself at NPC level first. Grindlay can be a devastating runner but doesn't have much subtlety to his game.

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    replied to Bovidae on last edited by
    #197

    @Bovidae Cheers. I've only seen him in schools rugby highlights.

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    @Tim I assume he played club rugby in Auckland this year?

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