Coronavirus - Media Discussion
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Media Discussion:
That's really interesting mate. I generally have no time for the ABC but I have found their news website the best factual, no opinion source of new info
I am astounded by some of the coverage. Holding someone to account for something they said a week ago in s situation that changes by the hour is at best disingenuous, at worst outright misinformation.
I have in the main been impressed with both Australasian governments, and I'm willing to cut them an awful lot of slack for being forced to make it up as they go along
I don't get the hate for ScoMo.
Has come across well from what I have seen of him.
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Media Discussion:
That's really interesting mate. I generally have no time for the ABC but I have found their news website the best factual, no opinion source of new info
I am astounded by some of the coverage. Holding someone to account for something they said a week ago in s situation that changes by the hour is at best disingenuous, at worst outright misinformation.
I have in the main been impressed with both Australasian governments, and I'm willing to cut them an awful lot of slack for being forced to make it up as they go along
I agree with this, I can't imagine Scomo or Jacinta or any other leader for that matter has had a lot of sleep in the past few weeks. They are making decisions than can have huge lasting impacts on people's lives here. It must be incredibly tough.
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I think ScoMo's standing is largely coloured by his recent actions e.g. sitting on a beach in Hawaii, "I don't hold a hose, mate" and "They want to be out fighting fires".
That is tough to come back from, as well as the fact that people are exhausted from a summer of bullshit. Probably also starting to get really pissed off at politicians in general (QLD - Adani flip-flopping, NSW - blowing budgets on stadia and light rail, etc).
Unfortunately, another part of it relates to his delivery - the same smirky goofball shit he always has done. That's just who he is and he can't actually help it. He's got a history of not answering questions directly (he's a politician) and therefore shades of either not knowing something, or knowing but not wanting to tell.
The core issue for me is consistency of delivery. "I'm going to the footy.... wait, no I'm not" - that one smacked of an advisor saying "bad optics, maybe don't do that".
"We will shut down events starting Monday" is actually a fair call given people had shit planned for the weekend, including a big Hillsong Conference just up the road from me, which looked like nepotism to a lot of people. Not saying it was, but again: optics.
EDIT: I should add - the fucking slogan politicking. Fucking hell that was a punish but he seems to have backed off a little on that.
I saw this the other day on FB and had to laugh.
Ultimately, he's paid a fuckload of money (for the rest of his life at this point) to lead the country. Sure, there are times it is going to be tough, but that's what you sign up for, lack of sleep or not. It isn't all just about giving your donors a reach-around and trying to push wealth up the chain.
There is a massive opportunity here for ScoMo to make the next election unwinnable for the ALP. All he needs to do is mobilise a bit more humanity in his party, sort out the human issues before worrying about the economy, and he can put his feet up for 18 months until the next election.
Lay down misere.
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@NTA That is the best meme. This thread seems to be a post articles from conservative media complaining about non conservative media treatment of the PM thread. I’m keeping up to date mostly through TSF and friends sending articles so I’m getting both sides of the media ... it’s all some good and some bad.
On the Ayatollah Morrison, I don’t think he’s doing a bad job per se, but that meme highlights some of the issues here in Oz. No one knows what the fuck is going on ... we’re in the in between, people are just doing their own shit because the govt aren’t making things clear. We all know that people are idiots even when given much greater clarity as evidenced by the NZ thread.
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@Nepia said in Coronavirus - Media Discussion:
@NTA That is the best meme. This thread seems to be a post articles from conservative media complaining about non conservative media treatment of the PM thread. I’m keeping up to date mostly through TSF and friends sending articles so I’m getting both sides of the media ... it’s all some good and some bad.
Naturally when you've got a conservative government in power that was put there with the assistance of a conservative media put a conservative slant on everything.
I don't get the criticism of the ABC - and fully acknowledge that I lean politically to the left in saying that - when they've been told to give the government a free run under threat of funding cuts. Sometimes they bite back, but mostly they just report "the facts" as they've been told them.
On the Ayatollah Morrison, I don’t think he’s doing a bad job per se, but that meme highlights some of the issues here in Oz. No one knows what the fuck is going on ...
Multiple levels of government don't help. But the Libs in NSW are more aligned with the ALP in Victoria on this and other issues, than they are with the Federal LNP - mainly because it gets held hostage by a few rightwing crazies and can barely keep the rest in line.
we’re in the in between, people are just doing their own shit because the govt aren’t making things clear. We all know that people are idiots even when given much greater clarity as evidenced by the NZ thread.
All these stories of people going to the beach. I'm questioning whether I nip out to Bunnings to pick up a deadlock so we can secure a house we're trying to sell when all this dies down (my wife's grandfather passed away 9 months ago and we were in the middle of renovation).
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@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - Media Discussion:
@Duluth jaysus - the Fern has corona!! new threads are popping up everyone!
OR they're being correctly isolated
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@NTA said in Coronavirus - Media Discussion:
@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus - Media Discussion:
@Duluth jaysus - the Fern has corona!! new threads are popping up everyone!
OR they're being correctly isolated
Got our own section of the asylum and all!
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@NTA said in Coronavirus - Media Discussion:
Multiple levels of government don't help. But the Libs in NSW are more aligned with the ALP in Victoria on this and other issues, than they are with the Federal LNP - mainly because it gets held hostage by a few rightwing crazies and can barely keep the rest in line.
I find this being thrown out to be disingenuous, the "it's harder for him because of states ...", it doesn't mean we can't measure his performance with all that taken into account.
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There is an older Dr in the UK who has got a lot of traction on YouTube for his very simple videos and easy to understand manner. Check out his channel here. https://www.youtube.com/user/Campbellteaching/videos
Found his video on Vitamin D very interesting.
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can we chuck political speech writers on the bonfire as well?
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Media Discussion:
can we chuck political speech writers on the bonfire as well?
Anyone in particular?
I think the waffle at the start of ScoMo's updates is actually all him. Maybe the empathy consultant trying to experiment.
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I'm fucking done with listening to the opinions of people who have heard or read the same as me
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Media Discussion:
I'm fucking done with listening to the opinions of people who have heard or read the same as me
Well your time on the Fern had to end one day.
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The basement debate.
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus - Media Discussion:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Media Discussion:
I'm fucking done with listening to the opinions of people who have heard or read the same as me
Well your time on the Fern had to end one day.
unlike the media, we fully acknowledge how ill-informed our opinions are. And don't try to pass them off as facts (in the main anyway)