Diving In Rugby
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Anyone trying to milk a penalty should get carded. Against the spirit of the game and disrespects the referee as sole judge of law and fact on the field.
Lots of good (infuriating) examples up thread to which I’d add:
trapping players in rucks - fucking clear him out: that’s your job if you want to earn fast ball
Placing the ball under the tackler - you obviously don’t want to use the ball so you don’t deserve a penalty
Appealing to the ref to check head contact/neck & crock rolls - grow your hair long and go dive and roll around on the soccer pitch to your little heart’s content or get on with the game
Big distinction between milking and earning penalties though. If the other team can’t scrum, maul or get back on defence without cheating then you’ve earned the penalty.
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@Bovidae said in Diving In Rugby:
Most refs are now not rewarding teams for trapping a player in the ruck, or placing the ball into the tackler and expecting a penalty. That is a step in the right direction.
I wish they'd stop rewarding players who could make a steal but instead just hold it on/into the tackled player.
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@Bones said in Diving In Rugby:
@Bovidae said in Diving In Rugby:
Most refs are now not rewarding teams for trapping a player in the ruck, or placing the ball into the tackler and expecting a penalty. That is a step in the right direction.
I wish they'd stop rewarding players who could make a steal but instead just hold it on/into the tackled player.
Sure, but that seems like more of a 2017ish thing. Refs demand a clear lift now if you want a reward. If anything they’ve swung back too hard letting tackled players hold on to survive an initial poach, roll over again/jackknife away from poachers etc and that’s before we get to attacking trailers being given licence to go off their feet and seal the breakdown in a way that would result in instant penalization for falling “into the runway” if they were defenders.
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@Bones yeah that still happens but not as much as it did 5 or so years back, where refs were awarding them for simply being in a strong position over the ball to steal it, even if they werent really trying.
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Former All Black has ‘had enough’ of Ireland after ‘disgusting’ and ‘unacceptable’ behaviour
Ex-All Black Steve Devine has slammed Ireland and accused fly-half Jack Crowley of gamesmanship during their victory over Argentina.
Steve Devine coming out swinging
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@canefan fair enough IIRC. Crying on the ground as if he's been mortally wounded, then to rub salt in the wounds scores the try with Argentina down to 14 men - after no HIA.
edit: the worst part was that I had my hopes up that post-Sexton we'd get less of this pathetic shit - then his replacement goes and does that.
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@taniwharugby said in Diving In Rugby:
@Bones yeah that still happens but not as much as it did 5 or so years back, where refs were awarding them for simply being in a strong position over the ball to steal it, even if they werent really trying.
meh, i used to do that. Sometimes you don't want the turnover, you want the penalty.
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@mariner4life you sir, are a fluffybunny 🤣 and deserve some other fluffybunny coming in and flying at you like a missile.
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@taniwharugby said in Diving In Rugby:
@mariner4life you sir, are a fluffybunny 🤣 and deserve some other fluffybunny coming in and flying at you like a missile.
they did! because that's what we were taught to do! I know all sorts of ways to hurt people in rucks to make them think twice about sticking their head over the ball.
It's why my neck is fucked
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@Smuts said in Diving In Rugby:
sole judge of law and fact
That's actually not a law any more.
Agree with the rest of the post.
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@Bones said in Diving In Rugby:
@Bovidae said in Diving In Rugby:
Most refs are now not rewarding teams for trapping a player in the ruck, or placing the ball into the tackler and expecting a penalty. That is a step in the right direction.
I wish they'd stop rewarding players who could make a steal but instead just hold it on/into the tackled player.
aka the "Malcolm Marx".
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@Machpants said in Diving In Rugby:
Anyone got a vid of it?
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Steve Devine is blind
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@MiketheSnow said in Diving In Rugby:
Steve Devine is blind
Yeah, given what has been the norm that was a card all day long. Did The Irishman milk it? Well yeah, I think so but it was nowhere near up there with Nic White levels of shithousery.
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To my eye, Moroni is lining up for a tackle, the pass goes low and Crowley goes low to try to grab it. It's clearly head contact, clearly clumsy, and on precedent it's clearly a card, is it deliberate foul play - maybe? Slow motion makes this stuff look terrible, but it doesn't really reflect the reality of the game.
But if the focus is player safety, and if he's going to act like he's been severely injured, where is the HIA?
